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    Quote Originally Posted by Swallowtail View Post
    IMHO the dealer needs to get over himself. A negotiated price is not a trade secret nor is it commercial in confidence, and if anyone publishes on here what they got their car for then that information is now in the public arena. I tell you now if any of my mates buy an R36 they'll be going in knowing what I paid for mine... If the dealer isn't prepared to sell at a price he's not obliged to do so regardless of what he sold to you for. I don't see the big deal, nor do I think that a car dealer has any right to get on a high horse about dodgy negotiation techniques... they are hardly paragons of moral virtue.
    I agree. I think it is a laugh when the salesperson pretends you are getting such a good deal that they ask you to not tell anyone else how much you are paying. It is all just stuff they do to maintain their profit levels as high as possible, and keep you believing you got a "great" deal.

    My favourite is when it all gets so serious that the salesperson escorts you over to their manager and shows you on "the computer" that they are only making $250 (insert your own amount) on the deal, and that's why they can't possibly go any lower. I wouldn't be surprised if they do that to something like 80% of the customers who show any interest in negotiating a decent price and have done some homework.

    I know it happened to me with both the last two VAG vehicles I bought (different salespeople, different sales managers). How many of you have seen that screen ? As if I don't know that there is a whole lot of back door stuff going on, and their "cost price" is just another form of RRP (only lower). I continued to negotiate, reducing their $2,500 delivery/prep fee to (IIRC) $500.
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    Hahahah - yep have been shown the screen and given the "poor dealer only making $27.56 on the sale" with the last 4 car's I've bought, including the R36

    With the R36, not only did I get the screen, but he re-wrote it down on a bit of paper how badly I was screwing them. Of course he screwed up the paper and threw it out before I could ask for it....
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    Quote Originally Posted by kgbAgent View Post
    He says that he could not currently sell at the price he sold me the car. As I said - I think that the issue is that the dealership does not want their pricing available to other dealerships.

    It is the fact that I was ID'd as the disclosing person that pisses me off
    He says that he could not currently sell at the price he sold me the car. As I said = "it eats into my commission to much"


    but yeah I totally get why you are pissed off using your name not cool, but in no way should the dealer be having a go at you
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    Granted, ID'ing you and referencing the forum wasn't very smart, but I think the sharing of prices paid and deals received is EXACTLY what these forums are about: bringing a little transparency into the market.

    Sorry, I have absolutely no sympathy for the dealer and nor should you. If you want to observe something rather unpleasant, listen to a car dealer talk about the "wooducks" whom they've reamed for full RRP, then added exorbitant finance and insurance, and to top it all off, had the "extras" girlie dud them for another $2k in paint and interior "protection"
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    i agree that your name shouldn't have been used.
    but i also agree with others that your quote is open slather, as is anyone else's that have been posted on here or elsewhere.
    if they dont want to repeat the price then they dont have to. same as we have the right to say no to their price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kgbAgent View Post
    As I said - I think that the issue is that the dealership does not want their pricing available to other dealerships.
    I would want the dealerships to know what each other are selling their cars for. This results in better deals for ALL OF US.

    I'm not trying to have a go at you here, but I would be more than happy to let people know what I paid for my car and they'd be more than welcome to name me. In fact, I did exactly that last week on a different part of this forum.

    On another note, I was thinking about what the situation for the potential buyer (wasn't me btw) must have been at the time. I reckon the guy (or girl) said that they knew of someone who got $xxx and the stealer probably demanded who or else they wouldn't believe. Then they've called you up to spread some manure around. There's a term for it in the auto industry, 'Spraying' - and that's one form of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swallowtail View Post
    IMHO the dealer needs to get over himself. A negotiated price is not a trade secret nor is it commercial in confidence, and if anyone publishes on here what they got their car for then that information is now in the public arena. I tell you now if any of my mates buy an R36 they'll be going in knowing what I paid for mine... If the dealer isn't prepared to sell at a price he's not obliged to do so regardless of what he sold to you for. I don't see the big deal, nor do I think that a car dealer has any right to get on a high horse about dodgy negotiation techniques... they are hardly paragons of moral virtue.

    It's unfortunate that he dropped your name in it, that I grant...

    I should add that I have no idea who it was...
    +1

    If you want to keep something a secret, then don't blurt it on a forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brad View Post
    +1

    If you want to keep something a secret, then don't blurt it on a forum.
    +1

    Dont publish anything on the net you dont want used by a complete stranger to better their own circumstances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brad View Post
    +1

    If you want to keep something a secret, then don't blurt it on a forum.
    x eleventy billion, haha.

    The issue here seems to be the OP is pissed off that information he himself posted has been used to identify himself. Hello, is there anybody home!

    Once information is out there, you have no control over how it is used in future. Hopefully a lesson has been learnt here.


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    I agree, information on a public form is exactly that, once you have posted it then you give up any right to secrecy or privacy.

    Im just trying to figure out how he identified you from your username?

    "Yes mr salesman, this guy called "kgbagent" on vwwatercooled got an awesome price on a car can you do the same for me?"

    I just think its a typical case of sales guys trying to protect their margins.
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