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Thread: BiXenon Headlights - Passat MY12

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    Cool, thanks for all the information..

    Anyone know what the purpose of the washer rule is? If its a requirement for hids, then shouldn't it be the same for halogens?

    Anyway, looks like I need to find a washer system as well.

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    The headlight washer law for HID's is for the purpose of keeping the headlight lens clean. HID lights are more powerful then halogen & to this point if the lens of the headlight is dirty light can refract due to the dirt/dust at angles that can be dangerous to oncoming traffic. A whiter light will always have longer lasting imparement effects on eyesight than a more yellow halogen light if looked at directly.

    Now ofcourse there is always the argument that not everyone will activate the window washer often enough (which activates the HID washer system every every 5th use of the window washer) so the law is a bit ambiguous to some. Simply put however it is user beware, if you have it you must be reasonably aware of the requirement to keep your window, therefor HID's lens clean & clear. All of this works in conjunction with auto levelling lights. It is what it is & that is law.....

    You can see why it is such a pain in the 'A' job when you look at all the work that must be done if done legally to change from halogens to HID's. You can also now begin to imagine all those cars driving around with illegally fitted & operated HID's because the owner couldn't be bothered to do the job correctly using all the required parts.....

    Quote Originally Posted by joedm View Post
    Cool, thanks for all the information..

    Anyone know what the purpose of the washer rule is? If its a requirement for hids, then shouldn't it be the same for halogens?

    Anyway, looks like I need to find a washer system as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joedm View Post
    Anyone know what the purpose of the washer rule is? If its a requirement for hids, then shouldn't it be the same for halogens?
    Riker has explained the reasoning behind the regulation, so here is the specific regulation if you're interested:


    UN ECE Regulation No. 48 (ADR 13/00)

    Paragraph 6.2.9

    Dipped-beam headlamps with a light source or LED module(s) producing
    the principal dipped beam and having a total objective luminous flux which
    exceeds 2,000 lumen shall only be installed in conjunction with the
    installation of headlamp cleaning device(s) according to Regulation No. 45.


    A typical H7 bulb has an output of 1500 lumen, while a typical D3S bulb has an output of 3200 lumen.

    In regards to the levelling system - it's designed to compensate for vehicle loads. Typically, the level is measured via sensors that are attached to components of the suspension. Here is the regulation:


    Paragraph 6.2.6.2.1

    In the case where a headlamp levelling device is necessary to satisfy the
    requirements of paragraphs 6.2.6.1.1. and 6.2.6.1.2., the device shall be
    automatic.


    Which applies to the following types of dipped-beam headlamps:


    Paragraph 6.2.9

    (a) with LED module(s) producing the principal dipped beam, or
    (b) with a light source producing the principal dipped beam and having an
    objective luminous flux which exceeds 2,000 lumen.


    The car won't meet regulations unless you install both the automatic levelling system and the headlamp washing system.

    You should either go all out and buy all of the associated parts and wiring for the levelling, washing and cornering systems, or just install the headlamps as is (don't forget to buy the ballasts).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel_vert View Post
    You should either go all out and buy all of the associated parts and wiring for the levelling, washing and cornering systems, or just install the headlamps as is (don't forget to buy the ballasts).
    Not to mention the fact you will need a new front bumper (for the washers). Pros don't really outweigh the cons if you ask me
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    Quote Originally Posted by sam_online View Post
    I have done mine, I'm pretty sure passat is a golf seaden so...I think I can help
    what did you end up doing Sam?
    Did you install washers, does your lights have AFS?

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    Bloody heck!! Even at night I get flashed
    That's it I'm high beaming anyone with stock headlights
    from now on

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    Quote Originally Posted by joedm View Post
    what did you end up doing Sam?
    Did you install washers, does your lights have AFS?
    Ys for AFS system, I didn't buy the washer set but I know is possible to retrofit, but can't bother

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    I have been flashed 2-3 times but I think it is more to do with how bright the combination of HID/Daytime Driving Lights are as opposed to the light being too high. There is a clear distinction between where the HID's light up & where they don't & mine never light up the oncoming drivers face.

    Quote Originally Posted by cru22z View Post
    Has any of you owners of Bi-xenon gets flashed during the day even when its not totally dark yet and the HID auto turns on??
    I've had 2 cars high beam me already!!! I dunno if they high beam to say nice car /lights hehehe But on the serious note why ??
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    Same here..I think it's because they are mesmerized by the nice led/hid
    and they just keep staring at It until I pass by.

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    Hi fellas,
    Can the auto-headlight sensitivity be adjusted?
    Mine goes on mid afternoon regarding if it's
    dark or sunny.
    Is the auto headlight on timer as well?
    I've noticed it goes on around 3pm regardless if it's sunny or not.
    I'm puzzled

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