Future Global Bestseller ID.4?

[m88vet]

count me in ... is there a release date for OZ for the id3 and 4 ? i also like the skoda Eynaq... mayeb even better that the 1d4 ? i hope that the gov come to the party and encourage Evs rather than discourage ....

electric Amarok maybe !!

[nermal]

I've rented/driven a few Teslas in the US and Australia (including a Model S P90D) - just had my Model 3 deposit refunded the other day too (from when they were in pre-release - too small/tight/uncomfortable). Telsas have awesome performance and automation, but lack the details/feel to back it up - hard touch surfaces, "vegan leather" (aka vinyl) etc.

My ideal VW would have the looks, comfort and tech of an Arteon, handle like an R36 and have the raw power/torque/throttle response, violent acceleration, "fuel economy" and self driving ability of a Model S with Ludicrous mode. If VW could offer this at a half reasonable price, I'd be very happy.

Hopefully VW will have something exciting on offer by the time I'm ready to replace the Arteon.

[nermal]

Was using the Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) in the Arteon today and it has improved a bit since I first tried VW tech in a loaner Passat Alltrack Wolfsburg - my experience then was "OMG it's trying to kill me!" .. had test driven a Tesla a few weeks prior and assumed it'd be similar.

The Arteon is still not as good at "self-driving" as a Tesla, but has improved. I only had to hit the brakes once - it slowed down correctly behind a car stopped at a red light, but strangely accelerated a bit toward the end at ~30km/hr, which made me really nervous and I took over the brakes.

Got me thinking about the fact that the car in front had it's brake lights on... As a human driver, as soon as the car in front puts it's brakes on, my foot goes straight from the accelerator to hovering-over/applying the brake.

It wouldn't be too hard for the VW engineers to capture enough forward-facing footage in a variety of light conditions (and car-in-front colors etc) to train a convolution network ("AI") to detect brake lights on the car in front. IMO the ACC should (practically) never accelerate when the car in front has it's brake lights on.

[doc_777]

The ID range is a definite option for my wife and I moving forward. Our current vehicle needs are covered by the A4 and Troc, but the next cars - I can see at least 1 ID in there. I like the conventionally of them - not having to relearn near 40 years of how to use indicators for instance (why did Tesla put that on the steering wheel???), having a speedo and other essential gauges in front of the driver…etc. One of the major factors for us though, is our relationship with our VW/Audi dealer - for many years now we’ve received such exceptional service from them, that our vehicle choices extend to what we can purchase from that particular dealership. So ID it will be

[iampivot]

Are they ever going on sale in the Australia, and at what price?

[Sharkie]

Are they ever going on sale in the Australia, and at what price?

Q4 2024 I'm told. No idea on price, better be cheap as EV prices are collapsing new and used.

[Sharkie]

I have a ID-Buzz GTX on order, cherry red and silver combo colour option, expected delivery end Q1 2025. The order is subject to price (was told to expect $90K+ !!!) as to me VW needs to be aware that EV prices are in freefall in Aus now.

The alternative for me is a Cupra Born. I like the look and 1 year old demos with less than 5000km are less then $50K now (RRP new $66K) and still 100% eligible for the FBT tax waiver. It is just an ID3 in a prettier skin.

[Corey_R]

The price of the ID.4 and ID.5 in NZ has changed from NZ$79,990 to NZ$59,990 recently. It's still showing as a "Special price" rather than the "New" price, but I hope that these come out in AU closer to $60k than $80k!

The ID.Buzz was always going to be a higher priced car given the cost of the Transporters in AU.
ID.Buzz Cargo has been announced at AU$79,990 for the SWB (before onroads)
ID.Buzz Pro SWB at $87,990
ID.Buzz Pro LWB $91,290
ID.Buzz GTX LWB $109,990
See: https://www.drive.com.au/news/2025-v...ice-and-specs/

I personally hope that they'll bring the ID.7 Tourer to Aus

[Sharkie]

The price of the ID.4 and ID.5 in NZ has changed from NZ$79,990 to NZ$59,990 recently. It's still showing as a "Special price" rather than the "New" price, but I hope that these come out in AU closer to $60k than $80k!

The ID.Buzz was always going to be a higher priced car given the cost of the Transporters in AU.
ID.Buzz Cargo has been announced at AU$79,990 for the SWB (before onroads)
ID.Buzz Pro SWB at $87,990
ID.Buzz Pro LWB $91,290
ID.Buzz GTX LWB $109,990
See: https://www.drive.com.au/news/2025-v...ice-and-specs/

I personally hope that they'll bring the ID.7 Tourer to Aus

Yep, my dealer advised me late yesterday afternoon the ID.Buzz GTX LWB will be $109,990 + onroads. This makes it ineligible for the FBT waiver on a lease so, I already notified them of the cancellation of my order. Its not worth that much IMO

[Corey_R]

Yeah - that is a bummer.
I would say that the GTX in the Buzz is pointless and you should just get the Pro LWB that does fit within the FBT waiver. But without seeing the specs, it could be a case like in the UK where the GTX models often include most of the options already, so often ends up about the same price as a Pro with all the options.