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    MKV GTI replaced by T-ROC R

    After 16 years of loving my MKV GTI it has gone to a new owner, 98000ks.

    At 73 I was finding it more difficult to get in and out of , as was my wife.

    A very nice Demo T-ROC R popped up at my local dealer - haggled down to $58,000 drive away. 240k (not 240,000) on the clock, registered till May next year, so virtually brand new.

    It's Iridium Grey, Black Pack, Sunroof, Beats audio, and 3 years service pack. I think VW imported a good batch of these as a special offer, not sure, but I saw a few others in different colours with the same combo pack.

    Now the fun begins with learning how it all works, how to disable nag screens, lane keep, and probably a few more things I haven't got frustrated with yet

    I've only had a short test drive, but initial impressions are that the 200kg extra means performance is about the same as the stage 1 mapped GTI (about 180kw, 350nm) which makes the GTI really nice to drive. I will always lust after a tune for the Roc, but probably should tone down a bit at my age (well, that's what I tell my wife..... )


    It will be in my hands next week after I hand over the cash.


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    Tune it m8 the wife will never need to know .As for your Gti thats Gold and the new owner would have be stoked to drive it away ..Mods are a simpler way of pimping your ride
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    Congrats on the new T-Roc R. I recently drove a T-Roc base model (rental car) and was quite impressed by it, can imagine the R model would be awesome.

    I bet there are not many Mk5 GTI's with under 100,000km these days. You should be able to sell that for decent money (don't trade it in!!). Coincidentally, I was just outside looking at a 2013 model Golf Mk6 GTI with 195,000km that I am considering buying from a workmate to tidy up and resell. He has just bought a new car and cant be bothered to clean up the GTI and deal with buyers so ill do that task and buy the car cheap.
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    The entry height is a great thing about the T-Roc for sure. Also the ride height....no dragging on driveways into petrol stations etc.
    Cheers

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    Congrats, I love my R apart from one minor whinge. Whilst I think the engine power is great, it's the gearbox that annoys me. Always seems to be in a gear too high so if you want to do a quick lane change and give it some it's a bit lack lustre in the get up and go department. As soon as they crack the gearbox tuning, I'll be getting the TCU tuned for a snappier shifting gearbox. I also love the travel assist feature over the ACC function.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HORSPWR View Post
    Congrats, I love my R apart from one minor whinge. Whilst I think the engine power is great, it's the gearbox that annoys me. Always seems to be in a gear too high so if you want to do a quick lane change and give it some it's a bit lack lustre in the get up and go department. As soon as they crack the gearbox tuning, I'll be getting the TCU tuned for a snappier shifting gearbox. I also love the travel assist feature over the ACC function.
    I haven't done enough ks yet to decide what the quirks are for me.

    Have you tried flicking the gear lever back into sport for quick lane change? It could be a way to solve the issue before a remap is available. Or a couple of flicks of the paddle?


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    2023 T-ROC R - Sunroof, Black Pack, Beats Audio

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    Quote Originally Posted by gerhard View Post
    I haven't done enough ks yet to decide what the quirks are for me.

    Have you tried flicking the gear lever back into sport for quick lane change? It could be a way to solve the issue before a remap is available. Or a couple of flicks of the paddle?
    Going into Sport mode helps but still has some annoying lag, smashing the pedal to floor also helps. Paddle shifting is fine until I forget to change back up

    I had an FPV F6 that I got tuned (engine and gearbox) and the gearbox tuning was night and day over stock tune. It really woke the gearbox up, it was so responsive and intuitive, zero lag or hesitation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HORSPWR View Post
    it's the gearbox that annoys me. Always seems to be in a gear too high so if you want to do a quick lane change and give it some it's a bit lack lustre in the get up and go department. As soon as they crack the gearbox tuning, I'll be getting the TCU tuned for a snappier shifting gearbox.
    I'm with you brother, as soon as its out I'll have it .... absolutely loath the gearbox.

    Love the space, ride etc, especially the power (now), but hate the gearbox with a passion. Driving it back to back with my Golf R it is such a let down.

    Had a TCU tune on my daughters A1 and it absolutely transformed the car. Cant wait for the TCU tune to become available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharkie View Post
    Cant wait for the TCU tune to become available.
    034 Motorsport - Volkswagen T-Roc R Tuning - Stage 1 & 2 ECU Tunes– VAGPARTS Australia

    Does this link above mean they are BSing? Because they clearly state they can to a DQ381 DSG Tune!

    Quote Originally Posted by Lucas_R View Post
    or worse, not kicking back and labouring which means you get no power.
    This is the exact scenario that annoys the crap out of me!

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    The DQ381 has been around for years. Quite feasible that they can tune the early ones, but the variant in the current R models are not "busted" yet so can't be tuned yet.

    Have not done many ks yet in mine but I find S mode to be most usable around town - it's less manic than S mode was in the DQ250 GTI and provides mild DSG farts which always made me smile in the GTI. Will mostly go to S4 and S5 and change between 2000 and 2500rpm.

    All the changes are much slower though, no snappiness. Bring on the Tune

    I am drafting a questionnaire for Racingline to find out how the engine tune works for different driving modes, eg do you get the full fat tune only in race mode or also in eco/comfort/normal mode.


    2008 Blue Graphite GTI DSG with Latte leather. SOLD 4/9/2024

    2023 T-ROC R - Sunroof, Black Pack, Beats Audio

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