Factory oil specification EA888 Gen4

[gerhard]

The oil spec for our EA888.4 engines is 0W-30.

I don't think that is a good spec for longevity in Australia's temperatures or most people's usage patterns which are severe by most user manual definitions.

What do you reckon?

Should we be using 5W-30 or 5W-40 when summer temperatures hit 40+ degrees? 0w has no ability to cool an engine when operating in such temperatures, especially if using the engines potential....

[Lucas_R]

The 0w-30 will be to achieve the lower fuel consumption and co2 figures and to accomodate for the sub-zero temperatures in some countries.

Definitely go for a 5w-30 or a 10w-30 if you can one in the correct VW50x spec. Also would advise to half the manufacturers recommended service intervals if you want the car to last a long time (eg instead of a 15,000km interval, go for somewhere between 7,500-10,000km)

The brand new VAG cars are 0w-20 in the VW508/509 spec.

Some new Japanese cars use 0w-16 or 0w-8 oil which is insane.

[Lucas_R]

From a quick Google, if your oil spec is VW508/509 then its only available in a 0w-20 oil weight. The well known brand Liqui-Moly is ludicrously expensive too as per the 2nd link.

Do Australian spec cars have a petrol particulate filter (PPF)? If they do then you will have to run the correct oil. If you do not have a PPF then it will be fine to run the older VW504/507 spec oils which is available in a 5w-30 and a good deal cheaper to buy.

Synplus 508/509 0W20 - Hi-Tec Oils – Universal Auto Spares

LIQUI MOLY - Top Tec 6200 0W-20 (5L) - Engine Oil - Volkswagen 508/509– VAGPARTS Australia

[gerhard]

The 0w-30 will be to achieve the fuel consumption figures and to accomodate for the sub-zero temperatures in some countries.

Definitely go for a 5w-30 or a 10w-30 if you can one in the correct VW50x spec. Also would advise to half the manufacturers recommended service intervals if you want the car to last a long time (eg instead of a 15,000km interval, go for somewhere between 7,500-10,000km)

The brand new VAG cars are 0w-20 in the VW508/509 spec.

Some new Japanese cars use 0w-16 or 0w-8 oil which is insane.

Thanks for the info. I saw today where the LC300 is running bearings and their oil spec is 0W-20.

I have a 3 year service pack that came with my car, so I will now plan to dump the dealer oil after service and fill with 5W30. I don't do more than 5-8000ks per year so won't need intermediate change.

[gerhard]

From a quick Google, if your oil spec is VW508/509 then its only available in a 0w-20 oil weight. The well known brand Liqui-Moly is ludicrously expensive too as per the 2nd link.

Do Australian spec cars have a petrol particulate filter (PPF)? If they do then you will have to run the correct oil. If you do not have a PPF then it will be fine to run the older VW504/507 spec oils which is available in a 5w-30 and a good deal cheaper to buy.

Synplus 508/509 0W20 - Hi-Tec Oils – Universal Auto Spares

LIQUI MOLY - Top Tec 6200 0W-20 (5L) - Engine Oil - Volkswagen 508/509– VAGPARTS Australia

Mine does have a PPF but the oil sticker is 0W-30 504/507. I expect 5W-30 in 504./507 should be OK?

[Lucas_R]

Thanks for the info. I saw today where the LC300 is running bearings and their oil spec is 0W-20.

I have a 3 year service pack that came with my car, so I will now plan to dump the dealer oil after service and fill with 5W30. I don't do more than 5-8000ks per year so won't need intermediate change.

Mine does have a PPF but the oil sticker is 0W-30 504/507. I expect 5W-30 in 504./507 should be OK?

Yes ive heard that they are having issues with the V6 engine in the new Landcruisers - I havent looked into it at all but the oil spec might be partly to blame?? It's just too thin.

If your car is requesting for 504/507 oil then yes you can use 5w-30 in it no problems. This is what i use in my Audi SQ5 and also used to use in my Mk7 GTI with EA888 Gen3 engine. This is the oil that I use (buy it when its on sale which is quite often) but no matter which brand you prefer, they all offer a 5w-30 in the VW504/507 spec.

Perhaps have a chat to the VW dealer when you take it in for a service. They might use 5w-30 anyway knowing that 0w-30 isn't really suitable in our climate. Or you can ask if you can provide your own bottle of oil for them to use (i used to do this years ago when I had my Mk6 R) and they give back the bottle with just a little bit left in it. Then you know its got the correct oil in it and you know what brand etc.

[gerhard]

Yes ive heard that they are having issues with the V6 engine in the new Landcruisers - I havent looked into it at all but the oil spec might be partly to blame?? It's just too thin.

If your car is requesting for 504/507 oil then yes you can use 5w-30 in it no problems. This is what i use in my Audi SQ5 and also used to use in my Mk7 GTI with EA888 Gen3 engine. This is the oil that I use (buy it when its on sale which is quite often) but no matter which brand you prefer, they all offer a 5w-30 in the VW504/507 spec.

Perhaps have a chat to the VW dealer when you take it in for a service. They might use 5w-30 anyway knowing that 0w-30 isn't really suitable in our climate. Or you can ask if you can provide your own bottle of oil for them to use (i used to do this years ago when I had my Mk6 R) and they give back the bottle with just a little bit left in it. Then you know its got the correct oil in it and you know what brand etc.

Good idea on checking with the service tech. I did buy a bottle of the Nulon Euro 5W for top-ups. I always used Penrite Enviro+ in my GTI, as it was a very early brand that met VW502 spec at the time.

[Michael_B]

Useful info, as the Cupra Leon also has a PPF, so will also look out for the 5W30 Nulon per Lucas_R's link.

I too don't drive big km, so may not need intermediate changes, but will see what Solitaire says when service time comes.

Cheers

[Michael_B]

Autobarn have it on sale as a Member price for the Nulon Apex+ EURO 5W-30 that Lucas_R mentioned before

https://autobarn.com.au/ab/Autobarn-...0C3-5/p/148250

Will go and grab me some !!

[Lucas_R]

Autobarn have it on sale as a Member price for the Nulon Apex+ EURO 5W-30 that Lucas_R mentioned before

https://autobarn.com.au/ab/Autobarn-...0C3-5/p/148250

Will go and grab me some !!

Thats an absolute bargain for $50. I have enough to do my next oil change but might grab another bottle just because its so cheap.