Arteon Brake upgrade

[petemac110]

So far, they are driving great. No rattles or squeaks, very smooth and responsive braking. They don't have wear sensors, so this has been disabled. I haven't tested them properly yet as I had the old calipers/rotors in the back - but will report back once I do.

Lovely!

It reminds me of the approach we used to take back in my old Subaru days. Throwing more aggressive pads on the stock calipers (with stock or upgraded rotors) felt great regarding bite and outright performance, but you were always very much aware that you were running aftermarket performance pads, no matter which pad compound you chose. Each had specific trade-offs re: cold performance, noise, wear, dust etc.

Going to larger 4 pot alloy STI Brembo calipers and rotors (or sometimes the 2 pot Liberty GT calipers which were also larger than stock) always felt so much nicer under all conditions - whether on the street or on the track - and due to the additional heatsink capacity of the big rotors and the additional braking torque that the larger setup offered, you could often get away with running less aggressive compounds which just felt nicer on a day-to-day basis.

Yep, it's more expensive, but well worth it if you can afford it IMHO.

[amunra]

I'd rather not disclose as it was a one-off deal (ex-demo stock) - HP may be willing to tell you if you contact them directly.

I was looking at $1,500 for standard OEM replacements anyway and I now have the old calipers etc to sell - which also helps the equation a bit.

ballpark?

[Vedi]

The 380mm stage 3 brakes fit like a glove!

New calipers look on point, great choice.

[nermal]

Lovely!

It reminds me of the approach we used to take back in my old Subaru days. Throwing more aggressive pads on the stock calipers (with stock or upgraded rotors) felt great regarding bite and outright performance, but you were always very much aware that you were running aftermarket performance pads, no matter which pad compound you chose. Each had specific trade-offs re: cold performance, noise, wear, dust etc.

Going to larger 4 pot alloy STI Brembo calipers and rotors (or sometimes the 2 pot Liberty GT calipers which were also larger than stock) always felt so much nicer under all conditions - whether on the street or on the track - and due to the additional heatsink capacity of the big rotors and the additional braking torque that the larger setup offered, you could often get away with running less aggressive compounds which just felt nicer on a day-to-day basis.

Yep, it's more expensive, but well worth it if you can afford it IMHO.

Yeah, I'm really surprised how much it changes the feel and handling of the car - wasn't expecting that.

I took it for a drive just before and it stops much quicker, without realizing it. It's pulling up earlier than it normally would, without the feeling of hard braking. I gave them a bit of a push (only part way) and it came up to a smooth stop very quickly - gotta be careful no-one runs up the back of me now!

The lack of squealing and rattling from the old poorly-fitted pads may also be contributing a little to the psychology - no more cringing while driving over road divets and ruts =D

I expected more grab and roughness (ie. beast mode), but it's actually a lot more refined. Quiet, smooth and gives me more confidence to drive the car harder. Can hit corners a bit faster too (lighter tap going into a faster corner)... can't really do much on the street though, and with some traffic around.

I'm really happy with them - money well spent IMHO.

[amunra]

Yeah, I'm really surprised how much it changes the feel and handling of the car - wasn't expecting that.

I took it for a drive just before and it stops much quicker, without realizing it. It's pulling up earlier than it normally would, without the feeling of hard braking. I gave them a bit of a push (only part way) and it came up to a smooth stop very quickly - gotta be careful no-one runs up the back of me now!

The lack of squealing and rattling from the old poorly-fitted pads may also be contributing a little to the psychology - no more cringing while driving over road divets and ruts =D

I expected more grab and roughness (ie. beast mode), but it's actually a lot more refined. Quiet, smooth and gives me more confidence to drive the car harder. Can hit corners a bit faster too (lighter tap going into a faster corner)... can't really do much on the street though, and with some traffic around.

I'm really happy with them - money well spent IMHO.

Ur just about ready for the track then.. u going?

[nermal]

Ur just about ready for the track then.. u going?

Well... the only track I've ever been on is a go-kart track, so would need a lot of training/practice first.

I'd also like to do some more to the car first. Maybe after stage 3 and if I've fitted the oil catch-can (prevent me from destroying the ea888.3 engine) and probably some other essentials.

[amunra]

Well... the only track I've ever been on is a go-kart track, so would need a lot of training/practice first.

I'd also like to do some more to the car first. Maybe after stage 3 and if I've fitted the oil catch-can (prevent me from destroying the ea888.3 engine) and probably some other essentials.

oil catch can is not gonna prevent you from destroying anything my friend thats a myth.. its actually 1 of the least useful mods u can do on the ea888 and does little to nothing for the money and time spent(well proven by now)

better to invest in a extra oil cooler as the temps can get ridiculously hot and blow ur engine. and quickly (maybe even dsg oil cooler to go with that ) and an uprated oil pan with baffle as both those OEM parts can actually blow ur engine up with temps and oil starvation at the wrong time... (but im sure HARDING PERFORMANCE already told u that?? )

might wanna get some training or practice in first in your sub stage 3 car with stage 3 brake kit... before you go full stage 3 for another what.. 25k and put it thru a wall with ur insurance not valid.

[nermal]

@amunra - it appears you have corrected yourself and yes, to confirm the Golf R / Superb 206TSI 4x4 / Passat 206TSI R-Line / AUDI S3 / Tiguan 162TSI all run identical (Front) 340x30mm vented rotors with the same sized single piston calipers, however the Golf R / AUDI S3 have a cover plate on the caliper, purely a decorative plate.

So, I'm about to list the old brakes (along with some other spare parts I have kicking around)... Would it be safe to advertise these as Arteon brakes that are Golf R "spec"? Anyone have any idea what these things are worth? I'm useless at selling car parts... or cars in general! =D

[amunra]

So, I'm about to list the old brakes (along with some other spare parts I have kicking around)... Would it be safe to advertise these as Arteon brakes that are Golf R "spec"? Anyone have any idea what these things are worth? I'm useless at selling car parts... or cars in general! =D

maybe someone on here with a lower spec golf or GTI might pick them up.

check online how much theyre going for if theres any floating around on ebay or wherever

[Vedi]

Anyone have any idea what these things are worth?

If you listed them with the range of VW MQB cars they match I wager you'd get a bit of interest with the time it takes to receive parts these days.

At a glance there appears to be a bit of life left on the pads, so maybe anywhere from $450-650 depending how quickly you want them gone and how quickly someone needs a repair or upgrade. A good price might also save you the hassle of packaging and shipping them.

Recently some R36 calipers and rotors (no pads) went for $585

Some proper R front calipers sold for $469

There are plenty of no-name caliper and rotor sets for sale, but the OEM gear seems to sell quite well.