2018MY Arteon Discussion Thread

**nermal** · 20-12-2017, 01:39 PM

Looks like it may just come to Australia after all..

Volkswagen Group Australia PR manager Kurt McGuiness said the local arm would readily embrace the new model to its line-up.

“We know our Australian customers love a performance Volkswagen, and given all locally-delivered Arteons are sporty R-Line cars, a V6 variant would be a good fit in our range. If and when such a model becomes available, we would certainly be considering it.”

And the best part of the twin-turbo 6 is that you can further tune and performance mod it (post warranty). That's a drawback to the R36 - very difficult to tweak any more out of the engine.

**DreamensioN** · 30-12-2017, 01:17 PM

Boom!! Surprise Arteon day! I wasn't expecting it until end of Jan, and earlier this week they're like "The car has arrived - can you pick it up Saturday?"

I'm happy with the purchase. So much tech. Soooo sooooo much tech. Makes my 2011 Golf R feel a bit like an etch-a-sketch and this thing is an iPad.

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**Ozsko** · 30-12-2017, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by nermal

Looks like it may just come to Australia after all..

Based on "a report". No attribution or solid fact at all, sounds like click bait to me.

**Ozsko** · 31-12-2017, 11:03 AM

You may well be correct bit I still think it is clickbait.

VW works out that Arteon sales aren't exactly setting the world on fire so they need to put the car out there as a talking point.

VW media rings up Drive and asks them will they do an article but they had done road tests, put it in the "best of" series they run every year so they do one with no attributable source on a few vague and unsubstantiated rumours from Europe.

Tin foil hat off and we can now resume normal programming. I would be very surprised, astounded might be a better word if the Arteon lasts more than one to two model cycles in Oz which is a shame as the car could have been so much more. VW have in a way put a noose around their own neck because they insist on using what is admittedly a very good standard interior right through the model range. If there is one thing I like about my Tiguan it is the interior, to me it is the best thing about the car and way better than any competitor but using the same interior between the Passat and the Arteon is not going to work as it hasn't done in the past with the CC.

VW to me have put what would have been to any other OEM an interior in all their cars which was suitable for cars that cost a lot more. To me the CC was a brilliant car with the four separate seats but VW never could market it world wide because it was either too expensive for the VW badge or simply not different enough. You only have to compare the responses on this forum too the car, very low key unlike the new Tiguan or even the Skoda models to see that the car is not going to have huge sales. That doesn't mean it is not a good car but marketed as a VW it won't sell.

If the bigger motor was put in the Arteon it would push it into the 80K bracket and that is serious BMW/Audi/Volvo territory and it definitely won't fly selling for that money. Funnily enough the UP! most probably suffered because of the opposite problem, VW tried to push down market and take on the Japanese and Koreans at their own game and got their nose snotted in Oz because they had to strip out of the car stuff that the Asian OEM's put in to make them more attractive. Any OEM that tries to take on VW in the area they traditionally sell in will suffer similar problems simply because VW are simply the best at the mid size performance car such as the Golf/Polo/Passat with heaps of tech in them. Toyota won't even go there, they continue to make bland white goods that sells to people who want reliable transport and are not interested in what makes it tick.

Sorry for getting carried away and thanks for reading, I did work for an OEM and can relate to some of this stuff.

**DreamensioN** · 31-12-2017, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by Ozsko

I would be very surprised, astounded might be a better word if the Arteon lasts more than one to two model cycles in Oz which is a shame as the car could have been so much more. VW have in a way put a noose around their own neck because they insist on using what is admittedly a very good standard interior right through the model range.

^this is why I went with the Guaranteed Future Value thing VW are doing at the moment. If the Arteon tanks and nobody wants to touch it in 4yrs time - I already know what VW will buy it back for. Or if it goes the other way and the Arteon is in high demand and holds its price - then I can buy out VW and flip it privately for a small profit.

Either way I feel comfortable.

**Blackpaladin67** · 31-12-2017, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by DreamensioN

Boom!! Surprise Arteon day! I wasn't expecting it until end of Jan, and earlier this week they're like "The car has arrived - can you pick it up Saturday?"

I'm happy with the purchase. So much tech. Soooo sooooo much tech. Makes my 2011 Golf R feel a bit like an etch-a-sketch and this thing is an iPad.

Congrats on the new bus. Gotta say super impressed with mine.

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**Ozsko** · 31-12-2017, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by DreamensioN

^this is why I went with the Guaranteed Future Value thing VW are doing at the moment. If the Arteon tanks and nobody wants to touch it in 4yrs time - I already know what VW will buy it back for. Or if it goes the other way and the Arteon is in high demand and holds its price - then I can buy out VW and flip it privately for a small profit.

Either way I feel comfortable.

That could be a very wise move. We looked at the same deal with the Golf PP and knocked it back because of the buy back price being very low for the time we were keeping it.

**nermal** · 31-12-2017, 12:17 PM

Sorry, tried to add a link via mobile and it seems to have cleared my post... strange =/

Apparently, the source was a VW spokesperson:

“We’ve combined it with the last version of the Haldex, where you can provoke a bit of oversteer. This is a real agile, powerful car,” Volkswagen product spokesperson Martin Hube said. “You can beat all the Porsche Panameras out of your way!”

Yeah, who knows if it will actually make into production, or even to AU, but sounds like a compelling option...