Group Buy / EOI new generation DNS head units (RNS-510 alternative)

**sinclap2** · 21-09-2013, 08:26 AM

Originally Posted by DkN

Audiosources usually works on Saturdays, but they might get lazy and take the (very) long weekend. I'll pester them tomorrow regardless.

I know I am! I'm not Chinese and it isn't a long weekend here but I am have a four day weekend.

**kwalsh24** · 21-09-2013, 01:40 PM

Agreeeeed! I wont be using that anyhow, not unless it effects the USB playback as well, however even then I can live with that and get a firmware fix at a later date.

Originally Posted by swyner

Ok Sandy. Let's hear some good news this weekend. Based on your preview video I don't think anyone on this thread will mind getting the unit with only a few non functional related bugs (like SD card music artist title). As long as they have whatever hardware tweak they were doing lets get this show on the road!!!

**Jeffbucc** · 21-09-2013, 02:04 PM

Agreed. I can live with the small glitches. If it will indeed get to the USA by the 7th +- a few days, I'm a happy camper.

**chillybone** · 22-09-2013, 08:32 AM

The ans unit never even got the sd and iPod music title and artist listing fixed. The ans still had many bugs. Why would this unit even ever be big free?

**Jeffbucc** · 22-09-2013, 09:25 AM

Originally Posted by chillybone

The ans unit never even got the sd and iPod music title and artist listing fixed. The ans still had many bugs. Why would this unit even ever be big free?

Well this is a huge step forwards hardware wise, plus they are marketing it as their flagship, so I imagine they would do more support for it.

Man so many of you guys have the sky is falling syndrome. If you want OEM pay for the RNS-510 and have something that won't support any file formats, won't play movies off SD card, and has an incredibly laggy interface. This is 5-600 cheaper than an RNS, it is a first run hardware and software.

Have some patience.

**chillybone** · 22-09-2013, 12:06 PM

It's not the delay that is concerning me it's the fact that if they release this unit with bugs they better fix them. since this is there flagship it should be better then the ans. if it's not then its a flagship of a fleet of piece of **** units. The ans was a flop in my eyes and the customer service to even get a how may I help you was useless. I have high hopes for this unit and rather see it release with no bugs then to get it as another ans

**Jeffbucc** · 22-09-2013, 12:22 PM

True. There is just no information from several sources on real world experience yet. Hence why I am unfazed. If the general collective had a lot of experience with it then we could be irate at problems. Hence why I'm waiting till I actually get the unit in my hands.

Most the time things people are annoyed about don't bother me. I don't need nav too often and I never use the radio. I just like the music file format and video via SD card playback. Since both those work and I can select my choice I don't care about much else. Plus the unit has aftermarket speaker support. Big plus there since I plan on a speaker upgrade when I get the unit.

**Deicide** · 22-09-2013, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by Jeffbucc

True. There is just no information from several sources on real world experience yet. Hence why I am unfazed. If the general collective had a lot of experience with it then we could be irate at problems. Hence why I'm waiting till I actually get the unit in my hands.

Most the time things people are annoyed about don't bother me. I don't need nav too often and I never use the radio. I just like the music file format and video via SD card playback. Since both those work and I can select my choice I don't care about much else. Plus the unit has aftermarket speaker support. Big plus there since I plan on a speaker upgrade when I get the unit.

Brings up an interesting question - what do you think the sound quality will be like?
I would have installed an Alpine unit, but the $2700 price tag stopped me.
I will be upgrading the sound system in my car but get the the same reply from audio shops about poor quality head units restricting the overall sound quality.

**Jeffbucc** · 22-09-2013, 06:37 PM

It will sound the same with your regular speakers if they are OEM. Most OEM(correct me if I'm wrong) are speaker level input.

The head unit comes with line-level outputs to support aftermarket amps, subwoofers, and speakers. Most problems with factory head units is that the sound doesn't come out as crisp since you have to use a line level to speaker level convertor.

So in essence. It will sound much better depending on your sound system. I'm not a speaker guru at all though so I could be talking out of my ass.

**Tobes_WIR35** · 22-09-2013, 09:00 PM

All speakers and subwoofers are "speaker level". The difference is that with an aftermarket head unit it will have line level outputs so that you can connect an external amplifier to power your speakers and/or subwoofer. Line level outputs are not amplified, therefore you're not relying on the small amplifer inside the head unit to power the speakers. Most amplifiers do have speaker level inputs, but this method has several shortcomings. It certainly accounts for lower sound quality.

But with stock speakers and no external amplifier, changing the head unit won't make a huge difference to the overall sound quality or SPL potential. You may get some benefit from a slightly more powerful inbuilt head unit amp and some slightly better sound processing hardware/software.

At the end of the day though, if you're playing through an iPod the sound quality isn't great anyway.