Group Buy / EOI new generation DNS head units (RNS-510 alternative)

**raymondtrudeau** · 06-09-2013, 02:35 AM

Sandy. Should I just order the ans810?
is it still s great unit?

**DkN** · 06-09-2013, 03:30 AM

Originally Posted by pwc123

No change on the Android mirroring front? Still not present in the current software?

No it doesn't appear so.

Originally Posted by raymondtrudeau

Sandy. Should I just order the ans810?
is it still s great unit?

It's up to you. I have said before that ANS is still a solid unit, the main flaws are that it can be a bit slow sometimes and its music functions are a bit limited. And of course many new and exciting things (trip recorder, OBD2, Android mirroring, auto sleep function etc etc) will come to the DNS and not the ANS, but whether these new and exciting things will be useful to you is for you to decide.

**raymondtrudeau** · 06-09-2013, 03:38 AM

ok thanks the waiting is killing me . ha ha .. I know the second i order the ans series the dns will be ready and i will kick myself...
do you think by oct 1 they will have all the bugs worked out?
thanks

Originally Posted by DkN

No it doesn't appear so.

It's up to you. I have said before that ANS is still a solid unit, the main flaws are that it can be a bit slow sometimes and its music functions are a bit limited. And of course many new and exciting things (trip recorder, OBD2, Android mirroring, auto sleep function etc etc) will come to the DNS and not the ANS, but whether these new and exciting things will be useful to you is for you to decide.

**Tobes_WIR35** · 06-09-2013, 06:22 AM

It's ok Sandy, It's not your fault mate. I'd rather wait another week or two to have a quality product.

**sinclap2** · 06-09-2013, 06:58 AM

Originally Posted by Tobes_WIR35

It's ok Sandy, It's not your fault mate. I'd rather wait another week or two to have a quality product.

+1 here too.

Hell, I have been waiting 10+ years for the GPRM game to come out, so this is nothing! ☺

**moda** · 06-09-2013, 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by DkN

It's been a while since I laughed out loud at my computer. Seriously mate, I want to see your GIF collection

Lots of time procrastinating on the internet haha :p

Originally Posted by Tobes_WIR35

It's ok Sandy, It's not your fault mate. I'd rather wait another week or two to have a quality product.

^ This. Not your fault Sandy, it's all good

I can imagine Audiosources are getting pretty frustrating to deal with.

But yea, i'd rather wait a week or whatever for all the bugs to be ironed out.

**Mister Jim Lahey** · 06-09-2013, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by DkN

... this unit has experimental software that is littered with bugs... the software engineers left the juniors the task of fixing bugs while they moved on to develop the music library functions, only to find that the software now has more bugs than when they left it.

... have to wait for an updated firmware which I've been told will be worked on tomorrow and be released ASAP.

Not wanting to sound overly cynical but this doesn't sound good, and frankly is what's always wrong with Chinese knock-offs. They look good on specs but fall down in application.

I mean, what point of crap tolerance have we reached where our car radios take time to boot up and then behave like they're running on alpha software?

Given how long it takes a highly professional outfit like Apple to iron out bugs - often not until the next hardware release - I wouldn't hold my breath on this one.

**moda** · 06-09-2013, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by Mister Jim Lahey

Not wanting to sound overly cynical but this doesn't sound good, and frankly is what's always wrong with Chinese knock-offs. They look good on specs but fall down in application.

I mean, what point of crap tolerance have we reached where our car radios take time to boot up and then behave like they're running on alpha software?

Given how long it takes a highly professional outfit like Apple to iron out bugs - often not until the next hardware release - I wouldn't hold my breath on this one.

Even then, major hardware/software companies still release products with bugs. Look at all the minor software updates that they all push. Hell, my iPhone 5 still hates my girlfriends wifi network and refuses to connect, when her 4 works fine :p (not just isolated to phones, my Sony Vaio Pro 13 didn't like her wifi either until Sony pushed an updated firmware for the wifi card etc).... even Intel face the same issues (See the Z87 chipset and the C3 USB3.0 bug).

Not being apologetic to Audiosources, if they really want to become a household name ala Kenwood/Pioneer etc, then they need to get their act together. But yea, the whole being a Chinese company argument as well.... it's all too easy for them to just throw a bunch of people at a project and not bother about what the quality is like. Easy to see with all the other generic units on the market... same hardware, same (crappy) software, just pushed onto the market and thats that.

I still have high hopes for the DNS, though (considering I fully paid heh). I think Audiosources have shown (looking at the ANS thread), that they continue to work on the software and push updates/fix bugs etc. At the end of the day, it still is much cheaper than an OEM unit (but the VAG units are made by VDO).... soooo yea.

For those looking for an intermediate option while waiting for the DNS, i'd suggest possibly checking out the Eonon units (D5152/D5153). They're cheap (~ under $300), same generic chinese hardware, but much better software (though not OEM at all), the shipping is fast, and for the money, they're pretty damn good. I've got one in my Prado, and I must say i'm pretty impressed, again, especially for ~$250 that I paid for it. Magnitudes better than the ****ty generic chinese unit in my Golf (3 main things i've noticed, the screen on the Eonon unit is wwaaaayyyy better, it's significantly faster, and the software is significantly better). Not a longterm replacement for the DNS by any stretch, but still worth a look if you can't wait *shrugs*

I'll hold out for the DNS, though. As long as it comes before I leave for summer work in late November :p

**kwalsh24** · 06-09-2013, 11:48 AM

I have the strangest feeling that this unit will always be in alpha stage for software. Like get your head out of your @sses and get this unit done. I feel the final product may be full of glitches when it is released to the public, if it gets to mid September I may just have to pull out and use my ans unit or source an alternative 8" screen unit.

**Jeffbucc** · 06-09-2013, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by kwalsh24

I have the strangest feeling that this unit will always be in alpha stage for software. Like get your head out of your @sses and get this unit done. I feel the final product may be full of glitches when it is released to the public, if it gets to mid September I may just have to pull out and use my ans unit or source an alternative 8" screen unit.

I don't see why. They released firmware updates to the ANS units so I don't see this being different. I can deal with glitches, hell every cell phone has had problems until software updates came out.

At least DKN is being honest about what is going on I stead of keeping everyone in the dark.

Any new hardware that is being developed and about to be released has problems. That is the nature of the beast.

If it falls on its face I'm just glad I paid with PayPal, but, I am not worried. After modifying my car for a long time I've become very patient with products and fixes. If you stay impatient you just cause yourself unnecessary stress. Keep calm and carry on!