Group Buy / EOI new generation DNS head units (RNS-510 alternative)

**kwalsh24** · 17-09-2013, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by moda

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**pwc123** · 17-09-2013, 11:06 PM

Originally Posted by DkN

There are a few internal differences with the DNS series that makes things easier to upgrade in the future too. I spoke to the manager earlier tonight and he said that from the testing so far he thinks for mirroring to work like they originally intended (with full control through the unit), they would need to use an external module. Again though, these are all able to be added to the DNS just like the trip recorder. MFD functionality is based on the CAN-Bus decoder, and the main difference with the DNS series is that the CAN-Bus software can be updated via firmware so no hardware is needed. The only thing I can't be sure of is MFD phonebook, i.e. whether a module to simulate an OEM phone module would be needed to unlock phonebook display in the MFD.

We won't be paying extra for the mirroring "external module", correct?

**DkN** · 17-09-2013, 11:56 PM

Originally Posted by pwc123

We won't be paying extra for the mirroring "external module", correct?

I hope not, but at the end of the day it depends on how much Audiosources will charge me, if they do. I can't possibly send free modules to 80+ people if Audiosources charges me $50 per module for example... But I'll do what I can.

**pwc123** · 18-09-2013, 12:35 AM

Brutal. It's a shame we're operating on a sliding price scale but I guess that's what happens when the production and development are all over the place. You'd think you'd (meaning Audiosources) look in to these things before telling people you can offer it.

I'm not sure how many Americans are in on this, but I would think this is the key criteria for them, as it is for me, because, as has been discussed in the past, we won't have navigation software out of the box. Fingers crossed for some clarity on this ASAP because I might not be able to participate if there isn't a solid understanding of when/how this will be implemented.

**Jeffbucc** · 18-09-2013, 01:37 AM

Originally Posted by pwc123

Brutal. It's a shame we're operating on a sliding price scale but I guess that's what happens when the production and development are all over the place. You'd think you'd (meaning Audiosources) look in to these things before telling people you can offer it.

I'm not sure how many Americans are in on this, but I would think this is the key criteria for them, as it is for me, because, as has been discussed in the past, we won't have navigation software out of the box. Fingers crossed for some clarity on this ASAP because I might not be able to participate if there isn't a solid understanding of when/how this will be implemented.

American here as well. I knew going into this it wouldn't be smooth sailing, but that is the price of being a bleeding edge beta tester for companies(at least that is how it feels).

I only use my steering wheel co trips to mute/volume/track changes, so I won't be to sad if it ends up being an external module.

......that is as long as DKN gives us group buyers a discounted price for said module! :p

**pwc123** · 18-09-2013, 01:57 AM

Amen!

I haven't said a word about any of the delays - that's understandable. Sandy is completely at the mercy of someone else that's far less responsive. But with regards to mirroring, specifically, it went from a feature within the unit, to a work in progress, to not shipping with the initial software to becoming an entirely separate external module at, perhaps, an additional cost to us. Then again, we're all rolling with the punches just like Sandy is.

**Justjuice** · 18-09-2013, 02:13 AM

Hey Sandy, do you happen to know if it's possible (even doing it on our own by editing jpg/bmp files somewhere) to change the way the icons appear on the screen? I was just comparing to my stock unit and realised the reason it looked a bit different is because the icons are black instead of silver with a gradient. I'm guessing the black looks pretty decent in the car but I'm all for customizing things where possible so being able to change icons would be pretty sweet for me

**acmonster** · 18-09-2013, 04:11 AM

Originally Posted by pwc123

Amen!

I haven't said a word about any of the delays - that's understandable. Sandy is completely at the mercy of someone else that's far less responsive. But with regards to mirroring, specifically, it went from a feature within the unit, to a work in progress, to not shipping with the initial software to becoming an entirely separate external module at, perhaps, an additional cost to us. Then again, we're all rolling with the punches just like Sandy is.

I agree. The Android Mirroring was a function i was most looking forward too. I would also appreciate having steering wheel controls work out of the box. I've waited and paid for this unit because I was understanding that it would work in my GTI without needing extra accessories and connections. I'm ok with the extra modules, but I won't be as happy if they require another delay or wait.

**swyner** · 18-09-2013, 05:43 AM

Ummmmm. Where did steering wheel controls get on the list of items that need a module to work? I think someone got confused. Steering wheel controls work with can bus software and work "out of the box". The android mirroring is the only thing that may need external module and may cost extra. Just clearing this up. Sandy you agree?

Regardless of that I am too a bit disappointed in the expectations and overall specifications and features that were set at the beginning. I am also one that will need to obtain iGo primo North America maps legally and at a cost since android mirroring won't work right away or probably for a very long time (given history). Also this "feature" of android mirroring is honestly the only feature that puts this unit ahead enough on the competition to make those interested in this. Yes the OEM like interface, speed of the system, etc are awesome but easily copied. Having that IN ADDITION to android mirroring makes this "system" rise above.

**raymondtrudeau** · 18-09-2013, 06:34 AM

Yes I agree I too...I would have to purchase north american maps as well .. the difference between the ans and dns is only the speed then? If there is no mirroring? Sandy can you try to insist on the module to be included with the dns purchase? Even if it is at a later date..

Originally Posted by swyner

Ummmmm. Where did steering wheel controls get on the list of items that need a module to work? I think someone got confused. Steering wheel controls work with can bus software and work "out of the box". The android mirroring is the only thing that may need external module and may cost extra. Just clearing this up. Sandy you agree?

Regardless of that I am too a bit disappointed in the expectations and overall specifications and features that were set at the beginning. I am also one that will need to obtain iGo primo North America maps legally and at a cost since android mirroring won't work right away or probably for a very long time (given history). Also this "feature" of android mirroring is honestly the only feature that puts this unit ahead enough on the competition to make those interested in this. Yes the OEM like interface, speed of the system, etc are awesome but easily copied. Having that IN ADDITION to android mirroring makes this "system" rise above.