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Guest Tuning Discussion - 132TSI /... 28-09-2016, 10:23 PM
tigger73 Yes this was certainly the... 28-09-2016, 10:41 PM
Greg Roles Yep spot on, they have the... 29-09-2016, 07:30 AM
Bassik Just in relation to this,... 29-09-2016, 09:14 PM
tigger73 The answer to this is yes... 29-09-2016, 10:06 PM
Bassik Yes but I'd be wary that this... 29-09-2016, 10:21 PM
Creampuff I too was waiting for 3... 29-09-2016, 04:10 PM
Gladbach Just a question on this - if... 29-09-2016, 07:01 PM
tigger73 162TSI is Highline vs 132TSI... 29-09-2016, 08:03 PM
Gladbach Yeah, my bad, I forgot that... 29-09-2016, 09:25 PM
cellrsx Larger rims on the Highline... 29-09-2016, 08:04 PM
Guest Well, I've put in an order.... 30-09-2016, 12:29 AM
REXman Lol well done. Ive just done... 12-11-2016, 01:37 PM
TIG162R I'm looking at getting this... 08-01-2017, 09:14 AM
REGS12 Tig162R I'm looking at same... 13-04-2017, 07:01 PM
tigger73 Plenty of people have tuned... 13-04-2017, 09:53 PM
Greg Roles Thing is the dump pipes for... 12-11-2016, 02:00 PM
Eyes24 Will u not wait till after... 11-02-2017, 07:16 PM
tigger73 If you only keep your cars 3... 11-02-2017, 07:53 PM
Eyes24 It's it a turbo upgrade or... 11-02-2017, 07:56 PM
MiiLos Tiguan 162TSI R-line Deals 11-02-2017, 08:13 PM
tigger73 Stage 1 = ECU software only... 11-02-2017, 08:27 PM
MiiLos Yes that was my thought... 11-02-2017, 08:36 PM
Mac135 That is what I've done in the... 11-02-2017, 08:37 PM
Eyes24 Does it cost much for stage... 11-02-2017, 08:42 PM
tigger73 Depends on which tuner you go... 11-02-2017, 09:02 PM
Eyes24 Hmm good to know, thanks ... 11-02-2017, 09:03 PM
Hole46 Which tuning company would... 12-02-2017, 04:42 AM
tigger73 I pulled these numbers off... 12-02-2017, 07:37 AM
Chocolate_Bear Definetly will be keen to... 12-02-2017, 08:06 AM
MiiLos Tuning Discussion - 132TSI /... 11-02-2017, 07:14 PM
tigger73 Different tuners will tune... 12-02-2017, 08:18 AM
Hole46 I was tossing up between... 12-02-2017, 08:57 AM
tigger73 I think either of these would... 12-02-2017, 09:28 AM
Regdop As a fellow QLD'er I am... 12-02-2017, 09:54 AM
Hole46 I'm Sunshine Coast myself,... 12-02-2017, 11:07 AM
Shock&Awe You should give VAG motors a... 08-03-2017, 04:11 PM
Reecemc Looking at doing the same... 08-03-2017, 11:37 AM
Frogasaursas Hey lads, I've got a... 10-04-2017, 08:08 AM
tigger73 Well I'm just waiting for the... 12-04-2017, 10:42 PM
Frogasaursas Thanks Tigger. I think you're... 13-04-2017, 11:07 AM
Sharkie A Tiguan is not a car that... 13-04-2017, 01:31 PM
Chocolate_Bear Those Durban style antics !! ... 13-04-2017, 01:56 PM
tigger73 Sharkie - nice to see you're... 13-04-2017, 02:07 PM
Sharkie Still here Tigger :P My V8... 19-04-2017, 09:26 AM
Tigger162 Did you know about the... 24-04-2017, 08:21 PM
Sharkie No, but I had the option to... 26-04-2017, 02:10 PM
tigger73 I seem to remember people... 24-04-2017, 11:23 PM
Sharkie I know, and always agreed... 26-04-2017, 02:25 PM
jaydeecee18 I have installed JB1 rev2 on... 13-04-2017, 10:41 PM
veew Awesome, keep us updated with... 14-04-2017, 03:00 PM
jpvw01 Did you have to remove any... 18-04-2017, 09:48 PM
jaydeecee18 * Engine cover removed -2secs... 18-04-2017, 10:28 PM
ewok666 The JB1 is a great product... 11-05-2017, 04:34 PM
jaydeecee18 Hey ewok666, Yerp, 100%... 12-05-2017, 01:40 PM
jaydeecee18 Yerp will do... Sent... 14-04-2017, 03:09 PM
REGS12 Just ordered a RaceChip Pro 2... 18-04-2017, 08:28 AM
REGS12 Well---it arrived today... 24-04-2017, 05:03 PM
gorey I'm interested to know how a... 18-04-2017, 12:43 PM
sclyde2 as mentioned earlier in this... 02-05-2017, 11:53 AM
Sharkie The easiest way is for... 02-05-2017, 12:09 PM
sclyde2 just checked vw's... 02-05-2017, 01:53 PM
REXman I can't remember who it was,... 04-05-2017, 12:51 AM
sclyde2 I suspect that people are... 04-05-2017, 10:46 AM
Tig162 Does anyone have experience... 06-05-2017, 09:27 PM
Delewin ABT have updated their web... 09-05-2017, 08:42 AM
Gladbach It was discussed elsewhere,... 09-05-2017, 04:18 PM
Delewin So if you are after lots of... 09-05-2017, 04:24 PM
Gladbach Have you noticed an... 09-05-2017, 05:17 PM
Schland77 Hi Gladbach, I have just... 09-05-2017, 09:56 PM
tigger73 If anyone in Adelaide would... 09-05-2017, 04:47 PM
Delewin Hi Gladbach I have been... 09-05-2017, 05:27 PM
gorey Jaydeecee18: now that you... 12-05-2017, 01:54 PM
jaydeecee18 In summary: - Loving JB1,... 14-05-2017, 09:21 PM
tigger73 Lets keep it civil and on... 12-05-2017, 09:30 PM
jrgti Ok, so I have ordered the mid... 13-05-2017, 10:35 PM
sclyde2 I wouldn't assume that the... 14-05-2017, 08:23 PM
gorey Great feedback, thanks... 15-05-2017, 07:57 AM
jrgti Just read that the Tiguan 132... 30-05-2017, 10:14 PM
tons Long time lurker, who has... 31-05-2017, 06:35 PM
dilbert_rocks Great first post Tons! ... 13-02-2018, 10:53 AM
Ozsko I am puzzled how that is... 13-02-2018, 11:21 PM
ewok666 Who has a stage 1 tune on... 03-02-2018, 09:25 PM
Hole46 I have had an etuners custom... 03-02-2018, 10:02 PM
Edmond_chiu Any idea compare with APR... 03-02-2018, 10:34 PM
Hole46 Gained 40kw midrange, 30kw... 04-02-2018, 05:05 AM
Dan_3MPS Not too shabby! What about... 04-02-2018, 07:18 AM
Hole46 Drive is great, very linear... 04-02-2018, 10:17 AM
tigger73 Are you able to post up the... 04-02-2018, 09:24 AM
Dan_3MPS That sounds great! After... 04-02-2018, 10:25 AM
INASNT Interested to see some dyno... 04-02-2018, 04:16 PM
Ozsko I love it and would never... 18-02-2018, 06:07 PM
brad Possibly due to experience on... 19-02-2018, 11:21 AM
Kachingg The drive home from the... 19-02-2018, 04:33 PM
Dan_3MPS I lasted 4 days with it.... 19-02-2018, 05:10 PM
NZ_GolfR The problem I have with the... 19-02-2018, 05:35 PM
Grugly Hi team, Any ideas on... 19-02-2018, 06:20 PM
tigger73 Nothing that's going to be... 19-02-2018, 10:50 PM
Transporter Keep it stock if you’re too... 19-02-2018, 10:51 PM
brad Stock air filter flows more... 20-02-2018, 07:51 AM
tigger73 Correction, you can install a... 20-02-2018, 06:24 AM
Transporter ...and as always, correct and... 20-02-2018, 06:43 AM
smarty what about an aftermarket... 20-02-2018, 08:41 AM
Dan_3MPS The only things I can think... 20-02-2018, 09:12 AM
Kachingg I have installed the revo... 20-02-2018, 12:50 PM
INASNT $950.. Damn 20-02-2018, 01:31 PM
Kachingg yeah not quite as bad as that... 20-02-2018, 02:04 PM
Dan_3MPS So...after a weekend with... 26-03-2018, 04:26 PM
ewok666 I used to have a JB1 on an S3... 27-03-2018, 10:36 PM
Sydneykid That's a bit simplistic,... 28-03-2018, 08:11 AM
INASNT Accept this for just a stage... 28-03-2018, 09:36 AM
Sydneykid My R32 has 627 RWHP from a... 29-03-2018, 10:06 AM
Dan_3MPS I had an APR tune on my... 28-03-2018, 09:48 AM
INASNT Test the rumors... Get a JB... 28-03-2018, 11:00 AM
Ozsko I was told that a few weeks... 28-03-2018, 04:45 PM
tigger73 Tuning Discussion - 132TSI /... 28-03-2018, 06:20 AM
Joegas Unichip say there’s is... 28-03-2018, 07:06 PM
Dan_3MPS Haha! Nahh... ... 28-03-2018, 08:38 PM
tigger73 The ECU will record peak... 28-03-2018, 09:35 PM
Sydneykid It's not actually that... 29-03-2018, 10:26 AM
tigger73 OK then they just need to log... 29-03-2018, 07:04 PM
Ozsko My information is that VW... 28-03-2018, 08:59 PM
Joegas You don’t have to be sorry,... 29-03-2018, 06:46 AM
INASNT $1990 is way too much, unless... 29-03-2018, 08:23 AM
Sharkie No piggyback is now... 29-03-2018, 08:38 AM
Joegas Thanks for the info, good to... 29-03-2018, 10:43 AM
tigger73 A lot of cars that are tuned... 29-03-2018, 09:26 PM
NZ_GolfR I had a Mk6 Golf R that had a... 30-03-2018, 11:21 AM
Hole46 All of this paranoia about... 31-03-2018, 10:11 PM
Ozsko You ought to see the drive... 31-03-2018, 10:15 PM
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    Tuning Discussion - 132TSI / 162TSI

    Hi all,

    I'm about to place an order but there is one thing that's unclear to me at the moment.

    I've read on the forum that the only difference between 132 TSI and 162 TSI engines is the different state of tune.

    Does it mean they are mechanically absolutely identical? No reinforced internals or other components etc etc.

    I'm looking at just the engine, and its potential for tuning at this point. The idea would be to go for the 132 TSI and wait for warranty to run out, then modify.

    Apologies if this has already been discussed elsewhere, and my lack of knowledge of VW engines!

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    Yes this was certainly the case for the first generation Tiguan and I'm almost certain that this will be similar for the second gen Tig.

    I strongly suspect that the 132TSI is just a detuned version of the 162TSI. When you put a stage 1 tune on both engines you'll likely end up at the same place.

    However for the first 3 years of ownership you'll be driving around a faster car if you get the 162TSI

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    Yep spot on, they have the same ceiling, just the 132 gains more getting there.

    You can find yourself a multichannel piggyback during warranty period, and take it off each service, leaves zero trace on the ECU, they are just a more linear tune, with much less overall "resolution" and low down response. Does the insanely cheap Berger do one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Roles View Post
    Yep spot on, they have the same ceiling, just the 132 gains more getting there.

    You can find yourself a multichannel piggyback during warranty period, and take it off each service, leaves zero trace on the ECU, they are just a more linear tune, with much less overall "resolution" and low down response. Does the insanely cheap Berger do one?
    Just in relation to this, can't VW tell that if you have piggy back tune on the engine by looking at O2 emissions and fuel ratings what not? Doesn't a piggy essentially trick the engine to thinking there is no ECU and it takes a while for the ECU to calibrate to the piggy back device. Thus if you take into a VW dealer and they conduct a diagnosis they will see somethings not right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bassik View Post
    Just in relation to this, can't VW tell that if you have piggy back tune on the engine by looking at O2 emissions and fuel ratings what not? Doesn't a piggy essentially trick the engine to thinking there is no ECU and it takes a while for the ECU to calibrate to the piggy back device. Thus if you take into a VW dealer and they conduct a diagnosis they will see somethings not right?
    The answer to this is yes there's no "undetectable" power increase as there's stored parameters for maximum power, boost, etc. So even though you might not have changed the software in your ECU, you've still run your car outside manufacturers specs and in the end this can be enough to void your warranty.

    It just depends how deep the dealer looks, and also how far VW goes with their diagnostic system which your car will no doubt get hooked up to if you have a warranty claim on your engine/drivetrain.

    Some people will wait until their warranty expires to modify, however there is essentially no difference if you break your car under warranty or out of warranty - your car is still broken and needs to get fixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigger73 View Post
    The answer to this is yes there's no "undetectable" power increase as there's stored parameters for maximum power, boost, etc. So even though you might not have changed the software in your ECU, you've still run your car outside manufacturers specs and in the end this can be enough to void your warranty.

    It just depends how deep the dealer looks, and also how far VW goes with their diagnostic system which your car will no doubt get hooked up to if you have a warranty claim on your engine/drivetrain.

    Some people will wait until their warranty expires to modify, however there is essentially no difference if you break your car under warranty or out of warranty - your car is still broken and needs to get fixed.
    Yes but I'd be wary that this is a new car and new engine. Some people won't want to run that risk. Waiting for out of warranty claims means you will need to get the car fixed regardless, however if you are in the warranty period and you have a tune and it's an engine failure VW will try everything to blame it on you and you could be up for some hefty costs.

    The 162tsi IMO will be pretty decent nonetheless as when I drove the 132tsi I felt it was pretty decent. 30kw more would be noticeable to say the least. Having said all this my Golf is tuned and to this day haven't had one issue at all. It's the best thing I've done by far.


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    I too was waiting for 3 years...long wait..haha
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    Just a question on this - if the engines are the same between the 132TSI and 162TSI, what would account for the extra 37KG between those two models? They're both highlines, so just wondering where the weight would come from apart from the engine? Legitimate question - this stuff is a bit over my head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gladbach View Post
    Just a question on this - if the engines are the same between the 132TSI and 162TSI, what would account for the extra 37KG between those two models? They're both highlines, so just wondering where the weight would come from apart from the engine? Legitimate question - this stuff is a bit over my head.
    162TSI is Highline vs 132TSI is Comfortline

    Main weight differences are electric leather seats, a bunch of extra trims, power folding mirrors, 18's instead of 17's and an electric tailgate. I suspect there's an extra 10kg+ alone in the electric tailgate.

    2017 Tiguan Sportline - Tigger73's 162TSI Sportline

    2016 Scirocco R, stage 1, 205kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's Scirocco R Build
    2013 Tiguan 155TSI, stage 1, 144kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's 155TSI Build
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    Quote Originally Posted by tigger73 View Post
    162TSI is Highline vs 132TSI is Comfortline

    Main weight differences are electric leather seats, a bunch of extra trims, power folding mirrors, 18's instead of 17's and an electric tailgate. I suspect there's an extra 10kg+ alone in the electric tailgate.
    Yeah, my bad, I forgot that the 132TSI was a Comfortline. That all makes sense.

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