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    Quote Originally Posted by twyat1 View Post
    I would hold of on Intake Hose unless 100% it fits Tiguan. I am learning the hard way that the intake sit close to the turbo than the mk7, see pics.Tigger73 will chime in with a more educated response but in general EA888.3 is a pretty bullet proof motor. The DQ500 is VAGs strongest DSG box. Then there is the worst case scenario where something goes wrong, I know that I am my warranty now.

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    Confirming the intake hose fits the r600 and also the stock airbox. The Russian Tiguan was running r600 intake, racingline hose and turbo inlet.

    I have used a MK7 GTI intake hose, by Ramair, on both my IS20 and IS38 and both fit fine (no kinks/abnormal bends).Note this is on a stock intake box and an APR turbo inlet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigger73 View Post
    The only way to get reasonable response is to use S (or M). Otherwise you'll have to get some aftermarket DSG software to sort out the shifting.
    I posted this throttle response adaptation in the vcds tweaks thread but didn't get a response about whether anyone has tried it and if it works?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melbourne_Tiggy View Post
    Confirming the intake hose fits the r600 and also the stock airbox. The Russian Tiguan was running r600 intake, racingline hose and turbo inlet.

    I have used a MK7 GTI intake hose, by Ramair, on both my IS20 and IS38 and both fit fine (no kinks/abnormal bends).Note this is on a stock intake box and an APR turbo inlet.
    I picked up a Mk7 Ramair hose and it doesn't seem to like the R600. Might pop by Harding Performance and compare hoses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twyat1 View Post
    I picked up a Mk7 Ramair hose and it doesn't seem to like the R600. Might pop by Harding Performance and compare hoses.
    Yes looks like a reasonable difference in length.

    I'm going to do the turbo inlet but probably stick with the stock hose because:

    1) it allows more engine movement from the expansion joints and causes less stress on the intake which is fixed. APR actually does not warrant their intake if you use silicone hoses and offer a carbon "hose" with a flexible coupling:

    Tiguan IS38 and Big turbo upgrades-intake_mqb_turbo_inlet_pipe__17431-1463149039-1280-1280-jpg

    2) nobody has proven that the stock hose is actually worse/gains for using another hose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigger73 View Post
    Yes looks like a reasonable difference in length.

    I'm going to do the turbo inlet but probably stick with the stock hose because:

    1) it allows more engine movement from the expansion joints and causes less stress on the intake which is fixed. APR actually does not warrant their intake if you use silicone hoses and offer a carbon "hose" with a flexible coupling:

    Tiguan IS38 and Big turbo upgrades-intake_mqb_turbo_inlet_pipe__17431-1463149039-1280-1280-jpg

    2) nobody has proven that the stock hose is actually worse/gains for using another hose.
    Racingline recommend using the intake hose with the r600 and refer to “power gains” although no dyno gains are listed. Its silicone so should flex with some minor engine movement. Although tiguan isn’t listed in terms of confirmed applications.

    Racingline intake hose for r600 or stock intake

    Revo dynoed their inlet, panel and hose combo and got a 12whp and 15nm increase, not sure what specifically can be attributed to the hose though.

    Revo intake hose

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    Contacted Ramair, replacing as they believe it's defected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twyat1 View Post
    Contacted Ramair, replacing as they believe it's defected.

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    Your ramair hose does look quite bent when attached to the R600, I’m on the stock air box and it fits well for me. Hopefully your replacement hose is a better fit. Did you manage to check with Harding Performance, whether the Racingline hose is a better fit?

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    Review of TCU launch control at 4500 RPM

    So I had a chance this morning to try out the revised launch control of 4500 RPM. The sound is a bit more aggressive (rally car sounding) at 4500, compared to previous 4000. There is a lot more drama and wheel spin launching at this rev, the car spun its front wheels for what felt like 1/2 a second before taking off, and there was also a very hard/rough noise when the haldex engaged and transferred the power to the rear wheels. I suspect that if this was done frequently I would be breaking something in the driveline.

    The 0-100 time reflected this being a few tenths slower than my PB of 4.1s.

    I will be reverting to the 4000 RPM limit as this was the most balanced of having the right amount of boost and moderate wheel spin to get you out of the gate and straight into crisp gear changes and the best 0-100 time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melbourne_Tiggy View Post
    Review of TCU launch control at 4500 RPM

    So I had a chance this morning to try out the revised launch control of 4500 RPM. The sound is a bit more aggressive (rally car sounding) at 4500, compared to previous 4000. There is a lot more drama and wheel spin launching at this rev, the car spun its front wheels for what felt like 1/2 a second before taking off, and there was also a very hard/rough noise when the haldex engaged and transferred the power to the rear wheels. I suspect that if this was done frequently I would be breaking something in the driveline.

    The 0-100 time reflected this being a few tenths slower than my PB of 4.1s.

    I will be reverting to the 4000 RPM limit as this was the most balanced of having the right amount of boost and moderate wheel spin to get you out of the gate and straight into crisp gear changes and the best 0-100 time.
    Should try the vcds/obdeleven adaptation on the haldex. Might help awd be engaged from launch or engage sooner:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melbourne_Tiggy View Post
    Review of TCU launch control at 4500 RPM

    So I had a chance this morning to try out the revised launch control of 4500 RPM. The sound is a bit more aggressive (rally car sounding) at 4500, compared to previous 4000. There is a lot more drama and wheel spin launching at this rev, the car spun its front wheels for what felt like 1/2 a second before taking off, and there was also a very hard/rough noise when the haldex engaged and transferred the power to the rear wheels. I suspect that if this was done frequently I would be breaking something in the driveline.
    Thanks for doing the R&D on your car. I think 4,000rpm sounds plenty.

    Quote Originally Posted by Melbourne_Tiggy View Post
    The 0-100 time reflected this being a few tenths slower than my PB of 4.1s.

    I will be reverting to the 4000 RPM limit as this was the most balanced of having the right amount of boost and moderate wheel spin to get you out of the gate and straight into crisp gear changes and the best 0-100 time.
    Hmmm what other plans do you have to get the last 0.11s?

    Also what wheels/tyres are you currently running? Perhaps some more grip may get you a tenth??

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