Tiguan IS38 and Big turbo upgrades

[Melbourne_Tiggy]

I am curious but want to keep low down response as much as possible.

A stock golf r makes peak torque from just 1850 rpm so was hoping for a similar response from an is38 on a tig.

I don't understand the delay on the APR package with the same turbo. Would have thought you just get more torque but arriving around the same time?

Hi, a stock mark 7 R makes max TQ of 280 FT TQ at around 2900 RPM, not sure where you got your info from. The APR stage 2 Golf is making around 370 FT TQ at 2900 RPM and Max TQ of 400 FT TQ at 3500 RPM, so an enormous increase.

I could not imagine the back breaking torque of 400 FT TQ from 1850 RPM, it would be like a Tesla Model S P100D, instant torque..........

[Psych101]

Hi, a stock mark 7 R makes max TQ of 280 FT TQ at around 2900 RPM, not sure where you got your info from. The APR stage 2 Golf is making around 370 FT TQ at 2900 RPM and Max TQ of 400 FT TQ at 3500 RPM, so an enormous increase.

I could not imagine the back breaking torque of 400 FT TQ from 1850 RPM, it would be like a Tesla Model S P100D, instant torque..........

Is 2019 model still mk7? Specs from VW website. 380Nm from 1850-5300rpm: https://www.volkswagen.com.au/conten...n-brochure.pdf

[Melbourne_Tiggy]

Is 2019 model still mk7? Specs from VW website. 380Nm from 1850-5300rpm: https://www.volkswagen.com.au/conten...n-brochure.pdf

The FY19 is probably Mk7.5 spec.

My source is the APR website for the Mk 7, where they compare stock power/TQ vs the different stages:

APR High Output 2.0 TSI/TFSI Gen3 ECU Upgrade for the MQB Platform

[Wolfsburger]

Hi guys. Thank you for all the awesome info you have posted on the Tig.
My Wolfsburg has only had a Stage 1 Flash tune (APR) and resonator delete (which was pretty much a waste of time but only cost $100). The resonator delete made very minimal exhaust note change, something you guys most likely already knew.
Love what Stage 1 has delivered, has anyone got a 0-100 time for stage 1?

Once I get a few bucks together I will definitely go for a Stage 2 APR tune.
Thanks for providing all your experiences, great stuff!

[INASNT]

Hi guys. Thank you for all the awesome info you have posted on the Tig.
My Wolfsburg has only had a Stage 1 Flash tune (APR) and resonator delete (which was pretty much a waste of time but only cost $100). The resonator delete made very minimal exhaust note change, something you guys most likely already knew.
Love what Stage 1 has delivered, has anyone got a 0-100 time for stage 1?

Once I get a few bucks together I will definitely go for a Stage 2 APR tune.
Thanks for providing all your experiences, great stuff!

Even thought the power output between stage 1 and 2 looks small, the way the drive drives and comes onto boost (new downpipe) is huge.

[Melbourne_Tiggy]

Hi guys. Thank you for all the awesome info you have posted on the Tig.
My Wolfsburg has only had a Stage 1 Flash tune (APR) and resonator delete (which was pretty much a waste of time but only cost $100). The resonator delete made very minimal exhaust note change, something you guys most likely already knew.
Love what Stage 1 has delivered, has anyone got a 0-100 time for stage 1?

Once I get a few bucks together I will definitely go for a Stage 2 APR tune.
Thanks for providing all your experiences, great stuff!

Hi, I started with APR stage 1 and vboxed 5.4s 0-100. I note however there was another APR stage 1 Tig that got flat 5 seconds...

Stage 2 will increase power/tq under the curve and be more lively. Have a think whether you would go straight to a IS38 swap as you could save some coin by skipping stage 2 install costs.

[Psych101]

Hi guys. Thank you for all the awesome info you have posted on the Tig.
My Wolfsburg has only had a Stage 1 Flash tune (APR) and resonator delete (which was pretty much a waste of time but only cost $100). The resonator delete made very minimal exhaust note change, something you guys most likely already knew.
Love what Stage 1 has delivered, has anyone got a 0-100 time for stage 1?

Once I get a few bucks together I will definitely go for a Stage 2 APR tune.
Thanks for providing all your experiences, great stuff!

Is the APR tune just using a preset map and is it based on Australian conditions and fuel?

[tigger73]

Is the APR tune just using a preset map

Yes.

and is it based on Australian conditions and fuel?

Not as far as I'm aware. A number of years ago APR engineers used to come to Australia to develop files specifically for Australian conditions and fuel. I don't believe this happens these days and most likely we just get the same "global" file as everyone else.

[Psych101]

Yes.



Not as far as I'm aware. A number of years ago APR engineers used to come to Australia to develop files specifically for Australian conditions and fuel. I don't believe this happens these days and most likely we just get the same "global" file as everyone else.

That a bit concerning using a map for different fuel and conditions. I suppose it would be a more conservative tune though being a generic map

[Melbourne_Tiggy]

That a bit concerning using a map for different fuel and conditions. I suppose it would be a more conservative tune though being a generic map

To be clear it’s not a single generic/standard map, you can select a octane/ethanol specific map for most octane types 95/98/104/e85, depending on your model. Being a global distributor and tuning thousands of cars a year, with proper R&D to get reliable and consistent power, mastery of various ECU types makes APR a well regarded tuner.

Not withstanding all that you can go get a custom tune with Underground Racing, Etuners, Etuners Motorsport or other generic tuners like Revo, GIAC or even piggy backs like Race Chip or Burger Motorsports.

In terms of being a conservative tunes, APR holds a number of world record 1/4 mile times for the VW and Audi platforms, so I wouldn’t call that conservative.....