Tiguan IS38 and Big turbo upgrades

[Melbourne_Tiggy]

Conservative wouldn't be the right term however they wouldn't being putting much timing in to be knock limited.

Then again who knows what these tunes do, could be purely more boost and that's it or same timing more boost and spray more fuel to suppress knock.

I've been trying to find software and hardware that allows me to do my own tuning however haven't been close to anything.

BMW platform you have a few options such as MHD combined with Tuner Studio.

You could be the next star tuner for the V Dubs.....we just need to find you a tuning studio. My brother has a 335 N54 TT and uses Wedge Performance for tuning via MHD. They start with a base tune and then customise it for the mods on the car. It definitely is bang for bucks, being a couple of hundred bills, and is definitely the way to go as he has mastered the platform. If you could do that for us and the VW community that would be much appreciated

[tigger73]

In your example that is obvious in the graph for a EA113. I would be interested to see on other modern MQB engines in particular what the differences are for custom tuners vs the global tuners are. At the end of the day, as more people make decisions to tune and that information is published and tested by consumers hopefully this helps others make informed decisions.

The hardest thing is getting decent comparison data. It's a lot harder than you'd think. Best way is to organise a dyno day and get a bunch of similar cars with a range of mods and get them all run back-to-back on the same dyno under the same/similar conditions.

Next best is to get a customer of one brand to swap to another and get the overlay of before/after. Not a lot of people swap tuners as there's usually not a whole lot to gain and a fair bit of pain to go through.

[Melbourne_Tiggy]

The hardest thing is getting decent comparison data. It's a lot harder than you'd think. Best way is to organise a dyno day and get a bunch of similar cars with a range of mods and get them all run back-to-back on the same dyno under the same/similar conditions.

Next best is to get a customer of one brand to swap to another and get the overlay of before/after. Not a lot of people swap tuners as there's usually not a whole lot to gain and a fair bit of pain to go through.

Or we could all just head to the drag strip and do some 1/4 mile runs

[Dose Pipe Sutututu]

You could be the next star tuner for the V Dubs.....we just need to find you a tuning studio. My brother has a 335 N54 TT and uses Wedge Performance for tuning via MHD. They start with a base tune and then customise it for the mods on the car. It definitely is bang for bucks, being a couple of hundred bills, and is definitely the way to go as he has mastered the platform. If you could do that for us and the VW community that would be much appreciated

Would definitely love to be, need a new challenge! Still have a 3x cars to tune, a 1JZ GTX3076 Gen 2 swapped IS300, a S15 with a GTX2860 and Poncams, and a 180SX with N/A cams and a GTX2860 Gen1. Had the 180SX on the dyno a month ago and had fueling issues, boost leaks, etc. This is why I hate tuning these **** boxes, they're always never ready.

At least with these newer cars everyone does the same mods, and never half arsed as there's much more pride (then again the cost of the car does play a part).

[Dose Pipe Sutututu]

Different tuners have different ways they go about tuning for sure.

It's always what you as a customer are going to be happiest with and there's a range of factors why people go one way vs. another in terms of tuning. Quite often it's not about the peak number but more about service, ongoing support, future mods and ability for the tuner to accommodate, etc.

Of course, I get customers to often ask me to make boost and torque as aggressive as possible where as some will request it comes on as linear as possible (generally guys that track a bit).

Of course the hard and fast "feels" great but on the track you're going nowhere as you're just baking tyres. I personally linear power and flat torque where as for the daily driver and for most they want head snapping action lol.

[Melbourne_Tiggy]

Would definitely love to be, need a new challenge! Still have a 3x cars to tune, a 1JZ GTX3076 Gen 2 swapped IS300, a S15 with a GTX2860 and Poncams, and a 180SX with N/A cams and a GTX2860 Gen1. Had the 180SX on the dyno a month ago and had fueling issues, boost leaks, etc. This is why I hate tuning these **** boxes, they're always never ready.

At least with these newer cars everyone does the same mods, and never half arsed as there's much more pride (then again the cost of the car does play a part).

If found this tuning tool online, I would have no idea how to use it but it seems to be able to read and write on the Bosch MED17 ECU. It has both OBD and bench accessories....

OBD and Boot chiptuning ECU programming tool for professionals | AUTOTUNER

[tigger73]

You could be the next star tuner for the V Dubs.....we just need to find you a tuning studio. My brother has a 335 N54 TT and uses Wedge Performance for tuning via MHD. They start with a base tune and then customise it for the mods on the car. It definitely is bang for bucks, being a couple of hundred bills, and is definitely the way to go as he has mastered the platform. If you could do that for us and the VW community that would be much appreciated

There's a fair bit of difference between tuning Japanese cars and tuning Euros. Fundamentals are the same (fuel, spark, boost, timing) but complexity in ECU's/structure of files is majorly different. Not that I've actually done any tuning (as far as I can claim is reading/writing someone else's files) but my basic understanding is that there's a range of different software/tools that's used to read/write and manipulate the tables within the ECU.

Not all tools access all tables and very few tuners will read/write the complete full ECU. Which leads to problems if you change tuners as if you don't get the ECU flashed back to stock you can end up with remnants of one file still residing in the ECU even after the new file is written in (as they're both partial reads/writes but not complete overlays).

[tigger73]

Of course, I get customers to often ask me to make boost and torque as aggressive as possible where as some will request it comes on as linear as possible (generally guys that track a bit).

Of course the hard and fast "feels" great but on the track you're going nowhere as you're just baking tyres. I personally linear power and flat torque where as for the daily driver and for most they want head snapping action lol.

Yeah I much prefer a nice linear file (and more linear accelerator). Makes it much easier to control partial throttle around corners. But you may miss a little off the line in the traffic lights GP...

[Dose Pipe Sutututu]

If found this tuning tool online, I would have no idea how to use it but it seems to be able to read and write on the Bosch MED17 ECU. It has both OBD and bench accessories....

OBD and Boot chiptuning ECU programming tool for professionals | AUTOTUNER

Thanks for that

Will have a good read tomorrow at my day job lol

[Melbourne_Tiggy]

Thanks for that

Will have a good read tomorrow at my day job lol

We can call our new tuning company DosePimpinTigs est. 2018. We can develop an app so people can adjust their own base tune on both IOS and Android and also include similar functionality to VCDS/OBDElevenPro for coding......