Should I buy the new Tiguan? Tiguan vs X1 vs Peugeot

**panz** · 05-08-2017, 03:42 PM

Hi all

I'm planning to upgrade my car to a bigger one as having a newborn made me realised that my Volvo v40 is too small! and the new Tiguan is one of the options.

So I thought I should ask you guys here, should I buy the car? the other options are the new Peugeot 3008 and BMW X1.

VW has a good reputation here, the new tiguan is well built and has all the bells and whistles, however I don't like its leather seats and the waiting time is ridiculous. BMW X1 is one that my wife and I like most but I'm worried about the cost of maintenance etc.

From my perspective, here's why I like/dislike each car:

VW Tiguan
Likes:
- Looks tough and manly
- Simple easy to use Infotainment system
- Comes with Android auto & Apple carplay
- Active Display Dashboard
- VW is known for its reliability here in Australia and has big dealership network
- Service cost is reasonable
- Large boot

Dislikes:
- The interior layout is the same with the other models and there's nothing new (a bit outdated)
- I don't like the quality of the leather seats where in some area it looks loose
- Only the top of the line (R-LINE) has matching bumpers' colour. The two tone (non R-LINE) looks like cars from the 80s/90s.
- The waiting time from order to delivery is ridiculous here.

BMW X1:
Likes:
- comes with HUD
- Easy to drive (important for the wife)
- The standard version comes with faux leather so I don't need to upgrade (and I'm ok with that as long as it's not cloth)
- Classic BMW interior

Dislike:
- Service cost is high and Reliability is questionable
- The gear knob looks ugly and outdated
- No android auto/apple carplay
- The M Line comes with Alcantra seats instead of leather

Peugeot 3008
Likes:
- Looks very modern
- The interior layout is the best compared to the other two.
- Comes with Android auto & Apple carplay
- Active Display Dashboard
- The seat design looks the best
- Has more bells and whistles
- Even the Active model has many options.

Dislikes:
- Service cost and reliability is unknown
- Only GT Line and GT come with electric seats
- Small dealership network
- Many people reported defects with their new cars (freeze iCockpit etc).

In terms of service cost - I may get away with free regular services for 3-4 years from corporate deal for BMW. Not sure about VW or Peugeot.

So far I'm leaning towards the pug because it's brand new model, more modern, has more bells and whistles and the price is more competitive. BUT white R-Line looks very sexy as well!

**tigger73** · 05-08-2017, 05:49 PM

Of course you should buy the Tiguan, especially when you're asking the question on a Tiguan forum

The wait time is really only bad on the R-line. Unless you're chasing a very specific model/colour/options then you should be able to find something in Melbourne or on a boat coming. You may find some dealers keen to shift MY17 stock now that MY18 has arrived so I'd be prepared to bargain hard on a MY17 or take the MY18 with the updates.

I haven't driven the other cars so can't really comment on either the BMW or Peugeot. Only thing I will say is that BMW's quickly become expensive as soon as you start ticking options boxes. The Peugeot was not a great seller in the previous gen (although was just a glorified Outlander) and resale is probably worse that either VW or BMW.

If you don't like the two-tone effect, I'd suggest looking at an Indium Grey as these certainly look a lot less two tone than some of the other colours.

**Rooboy** · 05-08-2017, 06:50 PM

Did you really expect to get an unbiased opinion on a VW site?

The dash layout looks pretty sharp but I'm not seeing many bells and whistles that aren't available on the Tiggy - especially now that the MY18 model has the 9.2 Discover Pro infotainment unit available. It looks like the VW active info display is more configurable than the iCockpit with the ability to show maps etc. Have you sat in all 3 and checked the ergonomics and usability of the controls as well as seat comfort? What looks best doesn't always work best.

The biggest downside on the Pug is the lack of an AWD model - all FWD. The economy of the top range diesel looks pretty incredible though.

You're right that only the R-Line has full body coloured bumpers but the Pug and Bimmer both have dark plastic cladding on the lower bumpers, wheel arches and door sills so I'm not sure what the issue is...

A mate has had a RCZ since new (now 4 years old) and he's been well looked after by Peugeot in Melbourne. He had a couple of engine related problems but they were fixed without too many dramas.

**panz** · 05-08-2017, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by Rooboy

Did you really expect to get an unbiased opinion on a VW site?

The dash layout looks pretty sharp but I'm not seeing many bells and whistles that aren't available on the Tiggy - especially now that the MY18 model has the 9.2 Discover Pro infotainment unit available. It looks like the VW active info display is more configurable than the iCockpit with the ability to show maps etc. Have you sat in all 3 and checked the ergonomics and usability of the controls as well as seat comfort? What looks best doesn't always work best.

I actually expected a biased opinion

The idea was get people who own a Tiguan to highlight the other positive/negative things that I might have missed as they were somewhat in a similar situation where they had to choose which one to purchase before they finally decided to go with the Tiggy.

I've sat in tiggy and X1 - will check out the 3008 next week as it just become available in Australia this month.

Thanks for the input so far guys, keep it coming

**gldgti** · 05-08-2017, 08:54 PM

you should get a wagon instead. Wagons are true family cars. "SUV"s are for retirees and posers

Donning flame-proof suit now.

**Timbo** · 05-08-2017, 10:02 PM

I went through this decision and chose the X1 25i

1. The wait for a 162 R Line (about the same price...yes...IRL)
2. Extra power
3. 8sp AT is smoother than DSG
4. Nicer interior ...sliding/reclining rear seat, big rear underfloor storage.

As to service costs, I purchased a 5 year service package for $1,750

And, yes, CarPlay would have been nice when I bought mine...and it's now available (albeit at cost option)

Get 18" wheels, sports seats and adjustable dampers.

**Cobwebs** · 06-08-2017, 07:25 AM

... but the X1 is a smaller vehicle. If you want room for a family then give the Tig a plus.

I certainly wouldn't say that the interior of the Tig is outdated. It is very modern and provides easy access to everything you need. The quality of the interior is up thete with the premium brands.

A HUD is starting to be considered out of date especially if if sticks up from the dash too much.

Comparing a 2017 Tig to an 80/90s car is bit harsh and prejudiced. So it implies you have alrrady ruled out the Tig.

Be a bit more honest with your comparisons.

**Pzero** · 06-08-2017, 09:13 AM

Consider the highline or r line tiguan. The lower spec models visually look like from 80s /90s because of the front lights.

X1 is nice but smaller and doesn't have the latest tech.

Peugeot will lose value quick. Reliability is questionable too.

The most frustrating part is the wait for tiguan, no other real downsides.

**Chocolate_Bear** · 06-08-2017, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by Cobwebs

... but the X1 is a smaller vehicle. If you want room for a family then give the Tig a plus.

I certainly wouldn't say that the interior of the Tig is outdated. It is very modern and provides easy access to everything you need. The quality of the interior is up thete with the premium brands.

A HUD is starting to be considered out of date especially if if sticks up from the dash too much.

Comparing a 2017 Tig to an 80/90s car is bit harsh and prejudiced. So it implies you have alrrady ruled out the Tig.

Be a bit more honest with your comparisons.

Nicely put mate

Tiguan 162tsi Rline fully loaded (June 2017) - NSW, Northern Beaches