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Thread: New 2019 Tiguan Fails Autonomous Emergency Braking Tests (30km/h and 50km/h)

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    The balloon is great for optical systems, however for radar it's problematic as it's 99% air and only some whispy fabric to pick up.

    I think you'd find a different result with a "proper" solid object. Even cardboard boxes would have provided the radar based systems a "fairer" test. I find it strange that the article doesn't mention the different methods for active collision avoidance.

    Of course the Subaru is at a significant advantage on this test with a massive target. The VW is at a massive disadvantage as the target is almost non-existent.

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    My car has already not sensed a car that I very nearly hit(dodged myself) but I admit I don’t know if it fits the systems criteria. I was doing 40-45, car pulled out of side street, across me and I dodged to the left and juuusssttt missed the rear of their car.

    I also have lots of false rear brake activations, but- again, unsure if it’s a related tech.

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    They used an inflatable ‘car’. I wonder what it’s radar reflectivity is like? This is so far from a scientific test it’s ridiculous - so the results are not worth the time required to read them.

    For visual-based system like the Subaru - great, works fine. For radar-based system which actually require a reflected radar return - doesn’t take a rocket surgeon to explain the reasoning for the inconsistent results across the range of vehicles tested.

    edit: and I just realised that tigger said basically the same thing half an hour ago I was a bit late to the party It honestly doesn’t surprise me though when motoring ‘journalists’ do these kind of stunts because they are generally - from what I’ve read of their product over the last few years - technological dwarfs and ill-equipped with knowledge of the relevant technologies to conduct a genuinely scientific test - let alone comment on the results.
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    Any volunteers to stand in front of a Tiguan to prove that it operates the AEB reliably? Surely all those saying that the tests are a load of rubbish will all line up to give it a go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozsko View Post
    Any volunteers to stand in front of a Tiguan to prove that it operates the AEB reliably? Surely all those saying that the tests are a load of rubbish will all line up to give it a go. New 2019 Tiguan Fails Autonomous Emergency Braking Tests (30km/h and 50km/h)
    I'm in team "I was driving cars before AEB" and never had an accident. Certainly not stupid enough to stand in front of a car to test it's autonomous braking feature

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    Quote Originally Posted by FastMitch View Post
    Ahhh the balloons ... look out !!!

    The balloon has an ANCAP logo so I assume it was used for ANCAP testing

    Is ANCAP testing now rubbish as well ?

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    the bogan commodore down the street has a chev badge on it so according to your logic....

    the results may be perfectly representative of real world. My point is that there’s no explanation of how the test ensures real world levels of radar reflectivity. In the absence of information, and having had my AEB kick in a few times in real world situations, i’ll happily trust the tech works on other vehicles. Balloons? I’ll take my chances.
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    I dont understand why so many are here VW defenders (or ppl paid by vw or dealers) As soon somone report any problem on Tiguan , they straight jump on you defending or denaying problem .Like they are owners of VW.

    What is the point of forums if not to help users and car owners. for educations , repair tips, twaks and tricks... Reporting not only good things but also problems realeted to specific cars and threads.

    lf somone report problem on just purchased car you have instantly 20 post defending VW even those ppl dont own tiguan or baring with same problem.
    If is problem than it should be clealry shown and warned all user ,is for sake for safty and icar mprovment .

    VW should fix problem on they cars not instead pay people on forums to bush users which reporting just purchased car problem's .
    If you own same model Vw car and somone report problem is also in good interest to all Owners ,especialy ppl from VW so they can fix sonner realize problem and prevent bad reputation of Company, but instead denying and hidding problems in start you msking only enemies and somone who will lose interest on next car purchase.
    If is the Problem than is the Problem, and need to be fixed by VW ,simple as that! They are not some inoccent good reputation company which can be trusted after all this Disel and DSG problems ,and VW AU coustomer service is most arogant and crook ppl in any car industires I ever dealt with. They do make nice cars but cars with 1000 of problems and Quality issue ,which should be not case for GERMAN QUALITY .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flipper Dog View Post
    Poor guy in the pink shirt. That looks like a few broken bones.

    Nice to see the Chinese owned Volvo hasn't improved the quality

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigger73 View Post
    The balloon is great for optical systems, however for radar it's problematic as it's 99% air and only some whispy fabric to pick up.

    I think you'd find a different result with a "proper" solid object. Even cardboard boxes would have provided the radar based systems a "fairer" test. I find it strange that the article doesn't mention the different methods for active collision avoidance.
    Do this mean the Tiguan uses 'radar' for its AEB instead of 'optical' ?

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