MY17/MQB Platform Tiguan Discussion Thread

[tigger73]

Yeah well you can't take too much from those photos - other than VW are obviously quite a way into testing the new model.

Almost certainly it's going to have the GTI motor, a diesel (135kW GTD motor??) and quite possibly an entry level FWD variant (assuming VW follow the same formula).

I'm certainly interested in the tunability of the Gen3 EA888 with stage 2 heading up towards 250kW??

[Ramee]

Yeah well you can't take too much from those photos - other than VW are obviously quite a way into testing the new model.

Almost certainly it's going to have the GTI motor, a diesel (135kW GTD motor??) and quite possibly an entry level FWD variant (assuming VW follow the same formula).

I'm certainly interested in the tunability of the Gen3 EA888 with stage 2 heading up towards 250kW??

Yeah APR advertised 235 kw peak value for GEN 3 165kW GTI engine with stage 1.


So stage 2 probably around 250 kW but will improve the area under the graphs.

Also here is an interesting article about Gen 3 engines compared to Gen 1 and 2, based on it VW has taken lot of measures to reduce friction, control heat generation and improve the low end torque and fuel economy.

Green Car Congress: VW introducing 1.8L EA888 Gen 3 engine in 2014 Jetta, Passat and Beetle; driving impressions


But if I ended up with a Gen 3 Tig I will start tuning by upgrading turbo straight away to a golf R one

[tigger73]

...which is exactly why I am looking to hold off until the Gen3 motors become available in the Tig.

I'd agree that if you are thinking of upgrading the turbo you should do this as a first step (saves paying for the tunes/work twice).

Though I'm still of the opinion that having a super car as a daily driver when most of the speed limits are 50/60/80 km/hr is a bit of a waste of time. Sure if you're going to run your car on the track it makes some sense but for a daily road car I'd probably still only go as far as a stage 2.

[tigger73]

Dropped through one of the local dealers yesterday and rumour is that MY15 models should be available for order sometime next week with cars out in September.... still waiting to have this confirmed but this would line up with dates/times for other MY changes.

[99Reza]

I traded in my Tiggy few weeks ago to the new Octavia RS TSI. Yup, it's definitely worth to wait for the new MQB platform vehicle, Tiggy included.

First, the drivetrain, engine is a cracker. Very linear power delivery and muscular, for the 162TSI at least. The DSG is very good, in term of smoothness and programming. None of those bipolar programming we all too familiar with the current DSG in the Tiggy. I rarely use the flappy paddle on the RS, it's that good.

Second, the ride refinement. Not sure how the chassis on the new Tiggy will be set up, on the RS the ride is quite firm and noisy but extremely refined and resolved, very close to a current model C-class. In my opinion this has something to do with the new chassis, i think VAG has significantly strengthen the chassis to provide better ride without resorting to a stiffer suspension.

If the RS is anything to goes by, the next gen Tiggy will be a very good machine.

[schmenz]

Yup that's true. In waiting back on them to confirm price and putting my order in.
Only 1 black with sunroof on it's way to qld so I'll have to wait a little longer. I told him white (which he is getting) isn't an option! Hahaha

[Ramee]

Dropped through one of the local dealers yesterday and rumour is that MY15 models should be available for order sometime next week with cars out in September.... still waiting to have this confirmed but this would line up with dates/times for other MY changes.

Hopefully we get the R line Tigs with this My15 versions, So I can get a R line rear bumper as a spare part. Already tried to get one from overseas but most couriers don't do that big parcels.

[tigger73]

Hopefully we get the R line Tigs with this My15 versions, So I can get a R line rear bumper as a spare part. Already tried to get one from overseas but most couriers don't do that big parcels.

Ramee you'll definitely see the R-line locally. The body kit will be standard on the 155TSI and ~$2.5k option on the 132TSI/130TDI.

I'm sure you'll be able to order rear bumpers if you've modified the stock one for twin exit exhausts. It won't be cheap option because once you get it, you'll still have to get it sprayed.

[Ramee]

Ramee you'll definitely see the R-line locally. The body kit will be standard on the 155TSI and ~$2.5k option on the 132TSI/130TDI.

I'm sure you'll be able to order rear bumpers if you've modified the stock one for twin exit exhausts. It won't be cheap option because once you get it, you'll still have to get it sprayed.

Good news! thanks tigger, So if we be able to get that complete body kit separately for 2.5 K I am considering it.
Plan is to modify R Line bumper as it makes twin exhaust looks very pretty.

[tigger73]

Good news! thanks tigger, So if we be able to get that complete body kit separately for 2.5 K I am considering it.
Plan is to modify R Line bumper as it makes twin exhaust looks very pretty.

I doubt you'll get much change from $5k for the bits bought through VW spare parts (don't worry I've been down this path already). Then you have to paint and get fitted which will be $8-10k by the time it gets on your car.

That's why the $2.5k option for factory fitment is such a good deal.