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    Ozsko My question is for you initially but also to anyone who wants to throw in their opinion.
    As you have enabled TJA I want to ask you something that is troubling me regarding ACC. I am hoping with TJA enabled this issue would be rectified.


    1. With ACC enabled to 60 km/h the car will automatically brake and accelerate to maintain the set speed but keep a distance from the moving car infront that it uses as a guide.
    2. When the car infront changes lanes then ACC will use the next moving vehicle as a guide.


    Now lets see how it works when stopping at lights.

    1. ACC is set to 60 km/h
    2. Car infront slows down to stop at the lights
    3. My car (ACC) slows down also
    4. Car infront fully stops at lights
    5. My car (ACC) fully stops behind the car


    Up to this point all is good, now we change the situation a little and an accident is most likely the result if no intervention is taken to Disable ACC.


    1. ACC is set to 60 km/h
    2. Car infront slows down to stop at the lights
    3: My car (ACC) slows down also
    4: Car infront decides to change lanes just before stopping (and moves away)
    Result
    5: My car (ACC) detects car has moved away and immediately accelerates to target 60 km/h.


    WARNING!
    There are 2 Possible outcomes from this scenario at step 5.


    A: If there are no more cars infront of you at the red light then it is normal behavior for ACC to accelerate to target 60 km/h. In which case you need to act quickly and hit the brakes to disable ACC.


    B: If there is one more car at the lights and it is stationary then you would expect that ACC detects it and stops behind it right ?
    NO! It seems ACC only detects moving vehicles so again when the car infront moves away (4.) ACC will hit the gas and not detect the stationary vehicle at the lights. In which case you need to act quickly and hit the brakes to disable ACC.


    This is just my experience that I wanted to share, maybe my expectations are not within the capabilities of ACC. Hoping the experienced users here could comment on this issue?

    Another dangerous way to test this is when your braking slowing down at a red light, 20 meters before you get to the stationary cars take your foot off the brake and activate ACC and it should accelerate as if there are no cars infront of you. However, I do not recommend this method. Its like playing Russian roulette with German cars.

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    Simply put the Tiguan will not react to a stopped vehicle and though I have never studied the manual in this regard my son who drives our Mk7 Golf PP assures me this is the case and I certainly find it to be true like you have. I have had instances of where my Tiguan has simply not reacted to a slowing car and I decided that I was not brave enough to allow things to continue and braked to match the slow car then hit resume and normal operations were restored and both vehicles came to a stop.

    My feelings about all this is that VW and car manufacturers need to up their game with education and familiarisation of these new generation cars because a few minutes of explanation at hand over is not sufficient. My son runs education nights every quarter for new owners at the dealer he works for to answer questions (not VW). On the night the owners are shown the service dept operation, given a power point and video run down on the features of the brand and questions are invited. A 400 page handbook as VW give us is certainly not acceptable and even if you were to read it all very few if any of us could absorb it and learn all the stuff it has in there. It is not region/market specific and has plenty of errors and superfluous information that just adds to the confusion because it doesn't need to be there so we have to wade through unnecessarily. I think a DVD is the least that should be used to show the cars features to new owners but that would cost money and all car companies are allergic to spending more than they have to.

    TJA & ACC are prime examples of the education problem, I looked at YouTube VW & Skoda videos and presumed (wrongly as it turns out) that TJA was autonomous driving simply because the limits of time placed on Stop/Go and Active Lane Guidance were glossed over, no they weren't glossed over they were simply not mentioned and ignored in the the interests of marketing, never let the truth get in the way of a good story might be closer to the point. The few owners who also posted videos never made these points clear either which I now find strange when I think about it. Even now after all this time there is still confusion surrounding the whole thing and if VW had done the right thing you and I would not have to ask these type of questions and that is what annoys me most about the whole thing.

    I will give them points for producing the series of videos on YT, its just a pity the whole user manual is not done by video. End of rant and thanks for reading. The scenarios you highlight in your post are the limits of a system not fully mature and still in the first stages of development. VW always preface their videos as being within the limits of the system or some such similar phrase which I suppose is fair enough it is just a pity they gloss over and ignore those limits.

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    So what your saying is simply that with Scenario B a resulting accident would be deemed "as being within the limits of the system"




    B: If there is one more car at the lights and it is stationary then you would expect that ACC detects it and stops behind it right ?

    NO! It seems ACC only detects moving vehicles so again when the car infront moves away (4.) ACC will hit the gas and not detect the stationary vehicle at the lights. In which case you need to act quickly and hit the brakes to disable ACC.


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    I think you summed it up fairly accurately and VW do say that you must remain alert and ready to avoid an accident, there are pages of warnings in every user manual. The first accident report to an insurance company blaming the car and its systems should be interesting. A driver was recently stopped in a Tesla and tested DUI after he had been observed to be asleep at the wheel. He claimed that as the car was doing the driving his intoxication had nothing to do with controlling the car!! An interesting philosophical argument no doubt followed the driver's statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NZ_GolfR View Post
    Also if anyone is interested I found that if you have electronic seats you can turn on the Easy Entry/Easy Exit function:

    Seat Adjustment Driver Side (36) - Coding - Easy_Entry_front - Change to Active

    This will slide the seat all the way back when you turn the car off to allow you to get it out and then when you get back in and turn the car on it slides forward to the saved position.
    Also, Coding easy_entry_front_over_MMI - Change to active

    Adds "Seats" to vehicle settings so easy entry can be turned on or off

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    Hi Everyone, I have recently got my new Tiguan 162TSI highline with DAP. I was trying to activate HBA via OBD11 but it is showing Function 31 error when I was trying to change the value in Control unit A5. Also tried the app version, but it is showing HBA is not supported. Is there any issue with LED headlights of 162TSI Tiggy? I am in a dilemma.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jap View Post
    seems the 9.2 descover pro has a different menu system than the other one, so no changing of colour in the setup screens
    Hello, in this video ( YouTube ) with a Passat there is a security access code : 31347, have you tried this ?

    In an other video, we ça see that's possible with an Arteon and Discover Pro : YouTube

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozsko View Post
    I think you summed it up fairly accurately and VW do say that you must remain alert and ready to avoid an accident, there are pages of warnings in every user manual. The first accident report to an insurance company blaming the car and its systems should be interesting. A driver was recently stopped in a Tesla and tested DUI after he had been observed to be asleep at the wheel. He claimed that as the car was doing the driving his intoxication had nothing to do with controlling the car!! An interesting philosophical argument no doubt followed the driver's statement.
    Ozsko, now that put a smile on my face. I hope they dont test the car for blood alcohol
    I think with time and experience we will adapt and find alternative solutions where the car is lacking in cooperation.
    Today I managed to catch ALG working down to 62 km/h, it was very interesting . The simple things in life that please us. It was a kodak moment for me. It seems ALG does not get its instructions from the Speedo.
    Mk2 Tiguan VCDS Tweaks-alg1-jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluemarble View Post
    Hi Everyone, I have recently got my new Tiguan 162TSI highline with DAP. I was trying to activate HBA via OBD11 but it is showing Function 31 error when I was trying to change the value in Control unit A5. Also tried the app version, but it is showing HBA is not supported. Is there any issue with LED headlights of 162TSI Tiggy? I am in a dilemma.
    Hi bluemarble,
    The OBDEleven app definitely doesn't work. For control unit A5 did you enter a security code? Just select security in the app for that control unit and it will scan and find you the code. Once you've done that you should be able to make the change. Worked fine on my Highline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nowmax View Post
    Hello, in this video ( YouTube ) with a Passat there is a security access code : 31347, have you tried this ?

    In an other video, we ça see that's possible with an Arteon and Discover Pro : YouTube
    It's about changing color in AID 😁

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