Mk2 Tiguan Tuning

[INASNT]

If you guys are keen, I have access to a 4WD mainline dyno I'm able to hire after hours. It's located in Wetherill Park.

Would be good to translate engine kW claimed by these shops to real wheel kW output. And yes I'll setup derived torque too, so no sky high roller torque numbers ��

Would have been good if you were in Victoria... Would like to see my stage 2 vs APR / Revo Stage 1 /2 vs IS38 RWKW on the same dyno with the same settings on the same day with the same atmpospheric conditions...

[Dose Pipe Sutututu]

Would have been good if you were in Victoria... Would like to see my stage 2 vs APR / Revo Stage 1 /2 vs IS38 RWKW on the same dyno with the same settings on the same day with the same atmpospheric conditions...

Do you have the option to switch maps? (I clearly don't know muc about Revo/APR stuff as I come from a world of standalones)

I reckon have a chat to Trent at Chequered Tuning (he is Dandenong South, VIC) and see if he is keen to pop your car and do several pulls on his Dynapacks (they're hub dyno units, with SAE correction would be pretty accurate).

Tell him someone from the Skylines Australia group recommended.


I'm curious if I can buy my own Revo License and tune it myself, not a fan of these "Stages". I want access to all the tables to do what I want to do, and disable any sensors as I wish.

[tigger73]

Would be good to translate engine kW claimed by these shops to real wheel kW output. And yes I'll setup derived torque too, so no sky high roller torque numbers 😉

Exactly there's a number of tuners with claimed engine figures. I understand why they do it but there's no way to easily verify their claims (and I'm sure they haven't tested on an engine dyno either).

As far as torque figures go I'm happy with real torque off the dyno as it takes out a lot of the variables with tyre size, inflation, etc, etc.

The engine kW and torque numbers are just calculated values. I prefer the @wheels numbers but each to their own

[Dose Pipe Sutututu]

Definitely each to their own, however if you're getting wheel kW why not get wheell torque right (it's literally just a calculated value from the engine RPM - if you're able to attain it from the OBD or an inductive pickup)?

I might contact Revo one day, lately been caught up learning about MHD and Tuner Pro (planning to get into BMW tuning and move away from tuning Nissans, Toyotas, etc.. owners are often tight arses and 90% of the time bring half baked cars to me to tune and often we just burn dyno time/money).

[INASNT]

Do you have the option to switch maps? (I clearly don't know muc about Revo/APR stuff as I come from a world of standalones)

I reckon have a chat to Trent at Chequered Tuning (he is Dandenong South, VIC) and see if he is keen to pop your car and do several pulls on his Dynapacks (they're hub dyno units, with SAE correction would be pretty accurate).

Tell him someone from the Skylines Australia group recommended.


I'm curious if I can buy my own Revo License and tune it myself, not a fan of these "Stages". I want access to all the tables to do what I want to do, and disable any sensors as I wish.

Have already had my car on a dyno when tuned to stage 2 and makes 181.2kw@4 wheels. To compare all the tunes on a level playing gound it would be good to get all the different tunes / combos tested on the same dyno. Mine was not a generic tune.

I know plenty of shops with dynos we could use, but they wont do it for free.

If you get the tuning software required you could access everything yourself and custom tune.

[INASNT]

I might contact Revo one day, lately been caught up learning about MHD and Tuner Pro (planning to get into BMW tuning and move away from tuning Nissans, Toyotas, etc.. owners are often tight arses and 90% of the time bring half baked cars to me to tune and often we just burn dyno time/money).

Skylines, silvias, 180sx are so cheap these days and owned by P platers with no money.

[Wolfsburger]

In response to an earlier post regarding whether the power output remains the same on the performance display after a tune. Yes it does. Mines been tuned to stage 1 but still reads 162kw. One thing is certain, it isn’t 162kw any more lol

[INASNT]

In response to an earlier post regarding whether the power output remains the same on the performance display after a tune. Yes it does. Mines been tuned to stage 1 but still reads 162kw. One thing is certain, it isn’t 162kw any more lol

Yes someone needs to come up with a way to modify that to read actual. I question all the outputs from the performance meter to their reality.

[Dutch77]

^ I've just got this in my head now..

[Dose Pipe Sutututu]

Skylines, silvias, 180sx are so cheap these days and owned by P platers with no money.

Yep, hence they come to me - I offer them pretty similar tunes, but much more pre/post support for a bit less than workshops, but these days I've been knocking them back. I constantly have to re-wire fuel pumps, delete OEM pressure relief valves, or spend several hours troubleshooting their clapped together builds. Then at times I'm using workshop tools from the shop that's hiring out their dyno to me and I often pay back in beers as a thank you.

In response to an earlier post regarding whether the power output remains the same on the performance display after a tune. Yes it does. Mines been tuned to stage 1 but still reads 162kw. One thing is certain, it isn’t 162kw any more lol

Power figures quoted by manufacturers are on an engine dyno, where as what you get from dynos are power produced at the wheels.
When you factor in mechanical losses a 162kW might translate to like 140kW (~15% drivetrain loss is pretty standard), not to mention often workshops/tuning shops can trick the weatherstation by increasing the temperature to "adjust" readouts to fulfill customer expectations lol...

Remember a dyno is just a tool, best way to determine performance is simply a 1/4 drag strip.