Mk2 Tiguan Tuning

[tigger73]

Ignoring all the for/against of piggyback vs. flash, has anyone used a JB1 or JB4 on their 162 yet?

Would be interested in hearing any feedback.

The only problem with the JB1 / JB4 is they are limited to effectively a low output stage 1 file. If you ever decide you want some more again then you have to start again with the flash tune route.

Good thing is you can sell them and recover some money when you sell the car. Tunes you do your dough 100%.

The problem is there's not a lot of back to back comparison testing for flash vs. piggyback so it's just a subjective opinions that you'll get. Most people will think that it's great until you get used to it and then you'll want more....

Which is why you really should get a flash that's upgradeable to start with

[Dose Pipe Sutututu]

Ignoring all the for/against of piggyback vs. flash, has anyone used a JB1 or JB4 on their 162 yet?

Would be interested in hearing any feedback.

You would expect the gains to be on par with a Golf GTI.. but you need to work out how the JB4 fools the stock sensors and if it may affect anything else in the car such as the Haldex, etc.

From my tuning background (work with only JDM cars, aftermarket ECUs, reflash EVO ecus, etc.) I hate piggy backs with a passion.

[ajdean]

I've got a JB4 on mine, and have been happy with it - by far the better option if you're concerned about warranty etc. They're hugely customisable too so you can tinker away if you're that way inclined. Paired with the bluetooth adapter and iphone app, it's a fantastic way of getting some more power out of the car

[INASNT]

I've got a JB4 on mine, and have been happy with it - by far the better option if you're concerned about warranty etc. They're hugely customisable too so you can tinker away if you're that way inclined. Paired with the bluetooth adapter and iphone app, it's a fantastic way of getting some more power out of the car

What are the claimed power outputs compared to APR etc. stage 1?

[HPRS230]

What are the claimed power outputs compared to APR etc. stage 1?

Hard to say mate as APR use flywheel numbers...
APR say 87hp, so ~65kW, then minus what you think drive line loss is

I got ~25 Wheel kW gain from a pre set map 2 (which is +5psi over stock)
Only mods were the airbox cut out and foam high flow filter.
You would be able to make Map6 (full custom) with a stock car and make more than 25kW (easy)
- a Mate got 50kw and 100nm gains with map06 on stock GTI PP

Note: FWD only (GTI), 169kW at fly, 153Wheel kw
Stock, Map 1 (+4psi over stock), Map 2 (+5.xx psi over stock)

Im currently Over 200 Wheel kW with intake and downpipe, Once I do an Intercooler, Ill prob go see Ben at BSP/tarmac engineering/Spectune. Mate has over 235Wheel kW with there tune.

[HPRS230]

JB4s are not like the piggy backs of yester year, it has some smarts and used on a wide range of cars now. BMW, VW, Merc KIA stinger. Good little unit for the price. Enjoy mate

Skoda RS230

[TheTig]

Picked up my Tig this morning, to recap, my list of mods include

- IS38 Turbo upgrade
- APR Turbo muffler delete
- APR Turbo inlet pipe
- ECS Silicone hose
- BMC hiflow air filter
- Airbox mod
- APR dogbone
- APR AWD Down Pipe

Each upgrade to date had an incremental performance increase with Stage 1 being the biggest until now......

Finding it hard to describe the difference with the IS38 and tune. To put it in a word 'WOW', car pulls REALLY hard now, roads are pretty greasy down in Melbourne today so being careful. Can't wipe the grin from my face, it's the go hard practical car I've always wanted

Love the fact it can still putt around in traffic, with my bike in the back or a boot full of groceries, you wouldn't even know it's had work done it whilst at cruising speed with the ACC on. Then stomp on the gas and it transforms..

No pops and bangs just yet, Melbourne_Tiggys was a special request from APR, just waiting on the file to be made available to my car so hopefully soon.

[Melbourne_Tiggy]

Picked up my Tig this morning, to recap, my list of mods include

- IS38 Turbo upgrade
- APR Turbo muffler delete
- APR Turbo inlet pipe
- ECS Silicone hose
- BMC hiflow air filter
- Airbox mod
- APR dogbone
- APR AWD Down Pipe

Each upgrade to date had an incremental performance increase with Stage 1 being the biggest until now......

Finding it hard to describe the difference with the IS38 and tune. To put it in a word 'WOW', car pulls REALLY hard now, roads are pretty greasy down in Melbourne today so being careful. Can't wipe the grin from my face, it's the go hard practical car I've always wanted

Love the fact it can still putt around in traffic, with my bike in the back or a boot full of groceries, you wouldn't even know it's had work done it whilst at cruising speed with the ACC on. Then stomp on the gas and it transforms..

No pops and bangs just yet, Melbourne_Tiggys was a special request from APR, just waiting on the file to be made available to my car so hopefully soon.

Congratulations mate! It is a true beast. There are now 2 is38 tigs (at least) creeping the streets of Melbourne!!! We must be the top Tig modification place in the world. Welcome to the IS38 club!

[smarty]

How much $$ are we talking to say do that list in 1 hit
Drive in drive out?
Is the 38 laggier? Or much the same but pulls a lot stronger

[TheTig]

How much $$ are we talking to say do that list in 1 hit
Drive in drive out?
Is the 38 laggier? Or much the same but pulls a lot stronger

Don't believe so, mechanic mentioned the IS38 spools up quicker than the IS20. Pickup in 2, 3 & 4th is impressive to say the least!

Hard to say on cost as I did it bit by bit so there is some overlap in cost.

IS38 is not a cheap upgrade, was lucky enough to get a 2nd hand one from a wreck and it only cost $1500.

All up probably anywhere between $6-9k depending on the turbo cost, performance parts, tune and labour