M17 Tiguan - Australian Reviews

[LibraR]

Hey guys SWMBO is considering a new Tiguan diesel. I am trying to find out if the DSG is the dry clutch unit (aka Golf TSI models) or the wet clutch unit similar to Audi S3 and the like. I am having trouble finding this out.

Thanks if anyone can shed light

[jpvw01]

If you trust Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct...f_DSG_variants

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[tigger73]

Hey guys SWMBO is considering a new Tiguan diesel. I am trying to find out if the DSG is the dry clutch unit (aka Golf TSI models) or the wet clutch unit similar to Audi S3 and the like. I am having trouble finding this out.

Thanks if anyone can shed light

Don't worry the 7 speed DSG used in the AWD Tiguan models is the DQ500 wet clutch unit. These are about 1 million times more reliable than the DQ200 7 speed dry clutch used in the Golf/Polo/Passat. etc. This is how the Tiguan also gets a 2,500kg towing capacity as the transmission is able to take that sort of additional load.

The lower end Tiguan 110TSI (petrol) with FWD gets the DQ250 6 speed wet clutch. The is still not a bad gearbox but historically still has had the odd issue.

[LibraR]

Thanks guys I figured it might be with 400Nm but best to ask those who know. Never buying a dry clutch DSG ever again... BTW it's not just VW that has issues with dry clutch DSGs. Hopefully they go the way of the carburettor before too long... 😡

[tigger73]

Thanks guys I figured it might be with 400Nm but best to ask those who know. Never buying a dry clutch DSG ever again... BTW it's not just VW that has issues with dry clutch DSGs. Hopefully they go the way of the carburettor before too long... ��

The reason to buy a 2.0TDI/TSI Tiguan is because VW put the DQ500 7 speed DSG in it which is rated to 600Nm. These have proven to be pretty reliable in the gen1 Tig.

The entry level 110TSI gets the 1.4TSI but only the 6 speed DQ250DSG. It's the same gearbox that VW puts in the Golf GTI/R, but if I was going to keep the car outside warranty I'd much rather the DQ500.

[LibraR]

The reason to buy a 2.0TDI/TSI Tiguan is because VW put the DQ500 7 speed DSG in it which is rated to 600Nm. These have proven to be pretty reliable in the gen1 Tig.

The entry level 110TSI gets the 1.4TSI but only the 6 speed DQ250DSG. It's the same gearbox that VW puts in the Golf GTI/R, but if I was going to keep the car outside warranty I'd much rather the DQ500.

Good call. 140TDi is the model being considered so pretty much bullet proof hopefully. Thanks everyone for the replies 👍

[TungstenR]

Don't worry the 7 speed DSG used in the AWD Tiguan models is the DQ500 wet clutch unit. These are about 1 million times more reliable than the DQ200 7 speed dry clutch used in the Golf/Polo/Passat. etc. This is how the Tiguan also gets a 2,500kg towing capacity as the transmission is able to take that sort of additional load.

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Great point! When I discussed tuning the 162kw 2.0 TSI at the VW workshop they told me the DQ500 transmission may well handle a 500Nm (600Nm) load, but the plates might not handle it. I realise now what BS that is because of the official VW 2,500kg load rating...

[Delewin]

Can you upgrade the DSG by adding extra plates?

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[tigger73]

Great point! When I discussed tuning the 162kw 2.0 TSI at the VW workshop they told me the DQ500 transmission may well handle a 500Nm (600Nm) load, but the plates might not handle it. I realise now what BS that is because of the official VW 2,500kg load rating...

To give you an idea on what a DQ500 can handle they put this gearbox in the Audi TT-RS.

Also Guy Harding ran a stock DQ500 gearbox (only a software upgrade) in his stage 3+ Tiguan that won Hot Tuner a few years back. That thing was pushing out some serious amount of power and the stock hardware was able to handle it no problems.

[TungstenR]

Thanks tigger73, that's something (more) to rub under the nose of the VW workshop manager...