M17 Tiguan - Australian Reviews

**Delewin** · 29-01-2017, 07:40 AM

Hi TungtenR,

Please enlighten us with your 3,000Km review.

Thank you,
David

**tigger73** · 29-01-2017, 08:03 AM

Originally Posted by Delewin

Hi TungtenR,

Please enlighten us with your 3,000Km review.

Thank you,
David

Check out this thread for customer/individual experiences: My Tiguan has arrived and this is my experience so far

TiguanR has written a short likes/dislikes and there's a few other more in depth reviews from others too.

**TungstenR** · 29-01-2017, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by Delewin

Hi TungtenR,

Please enlighten us with your 3,000Km review.

Thank you,
David

The steno gram version as posted elsewhere:

Dislikes? Yes. Lack of sporty engine/exhaust sound, mechanical/cold engine sound, too little differences between Comfort/Normal/Sport mode, ACC dangerous when cars get off the road and stop in a lane next to you, suspension "clonks" sometimes when there is a shallow but sharp hole in the road, water dropping into the car when driving in rain (footwell), car doesn't lower in Sports mode (as salesman told me), hot seats (too much insulation material?), Area view is nice BUT tricky, as I damaged a rim FOR THE FIRST TIME in my life, wind noise, rear spoiler isn't perfectly glued on one side (99.9% of people wouldn't notice), as is the "4motion" badge, that is about 3-4 mm down from the 2.0 TSI badge on one side (again, most people wouldn't notice).

Likes? Yes, plenty! First the overwhelmingly good dash display and Discovery Pro, with all of its settings/information, the comfortable and stable ride, in any and all of the settings, (my reference is an AUDI S4 with Bilstein PSS9 suspension), perfect size (inside and out) for me, good seating position/comfortable seats both front and rear, off-road settings work great (got through a loose pebbles beach where an off road truck (with off road tires and no load) got stuck.), the HUD (Head Up Display) works great with Lane assist and ACC info!, lane assist as such (tested it with hands off the wheel..., don't do this at home kids!), I'm surprised how the car works a lot chunkier in my garage than I expected, the design/build of the car has some interesting sculptural aspects to it (design concept with specific sharp angles/lines), that work great in pictures. LED lights work (and look) great (cornering lights, brightness etc.), though haven't actually tested the auto "Dynamic Light Assist" LED headlight settings.

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**Flipper Dog** · 29-01-2017, 08:35 AM

Had a talk with a journalist who was at the media launch of the 162 TSI yesterday and asked about the photos all being the same, similar stories and reference to common terminology.
On a media launch the manufacturer (or importer) will invite a host of journalists to a location and give then about half an hour to drive the vehicle over a pre-determine route. Prior to that they are briefed, provided a media pack and have on display a hero model/top spec model to sit in.
As a result of time limitations the possibility of photographing is not available so they use the supplied images. Stories being similar, well they all have their own check points to cover off on the test drive. This is discussed with the group while waiting around so common results can be formulated. And common terminology, the briefings normally have key points/saying than standout. Something like a GTI on stilts is a term used to attract or maintain your attention and makes for good fillers for a story.

The media launch may be a free event with all costs covered but they are under no obligation (or paid) to provide OEM propaganda.

**andrew7** · 29-01-2017, 09:42 AM

Lack of exhaust note/no DSG farts and lesser performance than its engine donor the GTI is a serious letdown IMO. Looks like I'll be waiting for the 7.5 Golf GTI and save a few $$

**IsDon** · 29-01-2017, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by Flipper Dog

The media launch may be a free event with all costs covered but they are under no obligation (or paid) to provide OEM propaganda.

The "journalists", and I use that term sarcastically, are free to say what they like. Although I'm sure their editors would have a few things to say to them though if they actually did a critical review. They probably wouldn't have a job for very long thereafter.

Fact is that the newspapers, motoring mags, and their online equivalents, get paid a lot of money by the car companies through advertising. If the commentary about their vehicle doesn't stick rigidly to the script then there will be threats to pull this advertising. Stick rigidly means cut and paste from the company supplied press release. No latitude whatsoever. That's why the terms and commentaries are so similar, they are written by the same author. The car company.

Don't believe me, where is the howling criticism from the motoring "journalists" about the new Ford Mustang? You know, the one that just recently scored two stars in the latest ANCAP crash testing. That's the same as a Great Wall ute. Scandalous! But of course you haven't heard about it because of the money Ford pays in advertising.

There's a clear conflict of interest here. Only one journalist I know of in this country provides an honest appraisal of all things motoring and that's John Cadogan. Search him out on YouTube. For aviation matters Ben Sandilands on the Crikey blog for the very same reasons.

**Mac135** · 29-01-2017, 10:05 AM

Not sure that writers and car mags/sites have been silent on the Mustang. I have seen several reports and yes it is a very poor outcome for Ford and has been reported as such. it is true that in most reports Ford have had a 'right of reply' to defend the indefensible IMHO.

Cadogan is ok/good but is jut too evangelical. I get tired of his bluster and Schtick TBH. At times and on some issues he makes a lot of sense but he Has his favourites too.

If if these things matter to you (not you personally but people in general) then take as wide a range of views as possible. I'm never going buy a car, or not by a car because of the opinion of a Jeremy Clarkson or a John Cadogen.

**REXman** · 29-01-2017, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by IsDon

The "journalists", and I use that term sarcastically, are free to say what they like. Although I'm sure their editors would have a few things to say to them though if they actually did a critical review. They probably wouldn't have a job for very long thereafter.

Fact is that the newspapers, motoring mags, and their online equivalents, get paid a lot of money by the car companies through advertising. If the commentary about their vehicle doesn't stick rigidly to the script then there will be threats to pull this advertising. Stick rigidly means cut and paste from the company supplied press release. No latitude whatsoever. That's why the terms and commentaries are so similar, they are written by the same author. The car company.

Don't believe me, where is the howling criticism from the motoring "journalists" about the new Ford Mustang? You know, the one that just recently scored two stars in the latest ANCAP crash testing. That's the same as a Great Wall ute. Scandalous! But of course you haven't heard about it because of the money Ford pays in advertising.

There's a clear conflict of interest here. Only one journalist I know of in this country provides an honest appraisal of all things motoring and that's John Cadogan. Search him out on YouTube. For aviation matters Ben Sandilands on the Crikey blog for the very same reasons.

You've absolutely nailed it. I spoke to a friend who worked at a very popular AWD magazine and you are 100% correct.

You must write many positives, are allowed to write few negatives (nothing of substance) and if you didnt you would not have a job.

I'm a little disappointed at how naive I was. I thought what they wrote was legitimate. But then again what did Alborz sell his site for recently?

That's business I guess. Wish we had the option for honest review's, though.

I still rate the free online sites for a cheap and dirty look at the pertinent details like KWs, what a car weighs, photos, (fuel efficiency can't be trusted obviously), but that's it. Even then the info is wrong. One of the reviews I saw had the R Line option at $2k??

You can't really trust anything else. That's why forums like this are so important !

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