I have ordered/received my New Tiguan

[Janko]

I don't have any evidence for this but I suspect VW think they're sitting on a cash cow with the Tiguan and it's going to be the car/model to haul them out of the dieselgate abyss (financially) so everyone that is buying one of these is also paying into the diesel-gate bail-out fund.

Tigger I think you are spot on with your assessment there.Tiguan has a large fan base and they are looking to cash on that at least for the short term.If things do not work out they can always cut the price!

[tigger73]

I don't think we have seen the end of "Dieselgate" yet!! Just checkout the article below

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...-emissions-row

Agree, though there's a whole other thread for discussion on this topic: Volkswagen under investigation over illegal software that masks pollution

I was just making the comment that the increase in the base price of the new Tiguan is likely related to the massive costs of fixing up the dieselgate mess.

[aussietig]

Mercedes GLA 220d 2WD 130kw TDI = $66,990
Mercedes GLA 250 4Matic 155kw Petrol = $79,300

This of course is just my opinion and pricing over in Aus is obviously different to here, plus we don't have the corporate discounts you get over there.

Clearly MB in NZ don't care about market share!

GLA250 is $68K driveaway for me! That's every option ticked (including R line equivalent "AMG" pack), except for the premium Harmon Kardon audio which I don't think is worth it!

This price above includes the corporate discount which is a $1,950 dealer delivery (which is steep) and 3 years free service.

Take these into account and I think it's only $5-6K more for a GLA250 over a 162TSI.

You do have an extra 7kW and a better DSG.

[NZ_GolfR]

GLA250 is $68K on road for me. Has everything including AMG interior and body kit, except the Sat Nav as don't think it's worth it as comes with CarPlay.

Corporate discount gives you $1950 dealer delivery (which is steep) and 3yr free service.

Take these into account it's a $5-6K between GLA250 and 162TSI.

You do have an extra 7kW.

It shows the difference between the two markets. MB has always positioned themselves as a premium high end car dealer here in NZ and the prices are reflected. To add the AMG pack to the GLA 250 is another $3,800 plus a further $2,500 for the Driver Assistance pack that the R Line comes standard with. That makes the GLA 250 RRP here $85,000 now obviously you could negotiate a better price but they aren't going to knock $20k off the price. Instead I have gone with an R Line with Dynaudio (I realise for some strange reason you can't get this in Aus) for $66,500 drive away and comes with all the options I want/need.


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[stark27]

Here's is what I discovered

Shortly after I a placed the order for my R Line I decided to try an exercise. I went to the BMW website here in NZ and specked up a new X1 BMW (I chose the X1 as it has similar dimensions to the Tig) By the time I had specked the X1 with all the options that I am getting with the R Line Tiguan the price came to more than 20K more than the R Line! I would hate to think what the the price would have been if I had used an X3 as an example? So to put it in a nutshell, do your homework before making any rash decisions.

My other point is, which would you prefer, a German car that is assembled in Germany or a German car that is assembled in the USA (BMW X1 that is)

Just my 2 cents for what it is worth

Mate, I'm agreeing with you

[stark27]

GLA250 is $68K on road for me. Has everything including AMG interior and body kit, except the Sat Nav as don't think it's worth it as comes with CarPlay.

Corporate discount gives you $1950 dealer delivery (which is steep) and 3yr free service.

Take these into account it's a $5-6K between GLA250 and 162TSI.

You do have an extra 7kW.

Not exactly accurate. I got a Highline 140TDI + R-Line + DAP + Tint for 57k driveaway. So it's not 5-6k, its more like 12-13k as he TSI is $1500 cheaper. I'm pretty happy with that price gap because the MB is not worth an extra 10k plus and its not new.

[aussietig]

Not exactly accurate. I got a Highline 140TDI + R-Line + DAP + Tint for 57k driveaway. So it's not 5-6k, its more like 12-13k as he TSI is $1500 cheaper. I'm pretty happy with that price gap because the MB is not worth an extra 10k plus and its not new.

Yes each to their own!

Certainly for me ... I was intending to buy another Tig and have a brand new Golf 7 flappy paddle SW which I need to get rid of, to prove my point!

But I'm not going to pay $60K for a Tig again as this was a psychological barrier for me.

That's what I paid 5 years ago for the one in my signature, when the Highline 147TSI first came out.
It was a bargain back then because Audi, BMW and MB were totally out of reach by comparison.

Fast forward 5 years, the price is still the same, but Audi, BMW and MB have come down and are well within reach.

The point some of us original Tig lovers/owners are making is the disappointment that it hasn't maintained that value for money gap that made it a success in the past. Its prices have not come down along with the rest of the market.

A 140TDI is not a meaningful comparison with a GLA250. It's equivalent is the 162TSI.

$68K is the price I am paying only driveaway!

How can that be $12-13K more than the 162TSI which the best I could get it for was $59.6K?

[stark27]

How can that be $12-13K more than the 162TSI which the best I could get for was $59.6K?

The problem is I believe you, and some other previous Tiggy owners, still see the Tiggy as a middle class car where as I think it has grown up quite a bit from the previous mode and therefore demands the increase. You've gott MB/BMW/Audi on a pedastal which to you justifies them charging and extra 10k plus when it's not a better car (imo).

As for the price, I was able to get the TDI for 57k on the road so if you take off $1500 you could get a TSI for 55.5k. Another member has done just that through a broker who which I got the details for. In fact he got an extra $500 off polus a towbar, did even better.

Anyway, good luck witht he purchase.

[Transporter]

The problem is I believe you, and some other previous Tiggy owners, still see the Tiggy as a middle class car where as I think it has grown up quite a bit from the previous mode and therefore demands the increase. You've gott MB/BMW/Audi on a pedastal which to you justifies them charging and extra 10k plus when it's not a better car (imo).

As for the price, I was able to get the TDI for 57k on the road so if you take off $1500 you could get a TSI for 55.5k. Another member has done just that through a broker who which I got the details for. In fact he got an extra $500 off polus a towbar, did even better.

Anyway, good luck witht he purchase.

I couldn't agree more.
...and I'm glad that VW listen to their customers and build the quality car for which many are ready to pay a bit more.
If you think that MB or BMW are better, then go and check properly in the showroom MB car, see how the panels fit and quality of the finish. I personally couldn't buy MB and don't see BMW as the car that would last me 10 years without spending fortune on it to keep it on the road once it done 120,000km.

[ambsamby]

Was thinking seriously thinking about Tiguan as already have a 2014 Golf R-Line Wagon and happy with it. Just bought a 07/16 build BMW X3 20i with Pano Roof and M sport innovation pack for 61K on Corporate with 5 years Servicing included. It was a no brainer . While doing comparisions we can always find the story to fit the outcome we want (X3 is bigger but Tiguan is new platform etc.). Can do ECU tuning to lift performance to 28i if so desired (wait til warranty finish first for me).
Good luck with all your purchases