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Probably will be accused of being biased, but for what it's worth the best value premium brand at the moment is MB.Originally Posted by IrishKiwi08
Has a simple meat & 3 veg (max) option only. Options added don't come to a ridiculous price (like Audi & BMW) and is definitely German car built in Germany.
Service cost is more than VW. But 3 years free service will help cushion the blow.
Last edited by aussietig; 04-09-2016 at 09:51 PM.
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Here in NZ I would have to disagree, the Tiguan is definitely the best value for money when compared to BMW, Audi and Mercedes. We are lucky that we have a bit more options with the Tiguan, the Highline is available as either 110kw TDI or 132kw TSI while the R Line is only in the 162kw TSI. I personally don't have an issue with the R being the 162kw as this is the engine I wanted anyway, only issue is the wait but that would be the same for any manufacturer releasing new models.
Price wise here the Tiguan is by far the cheaper option:
RRP Prices
Tiguan Highline 2WD 132kw TSI = $47,990
Tiguan Highline 4Motion 132kw TSI = $57,990
Tiguan Highline 4Motion 110kw TDI = $59,990
Tiguan R Line 162kw TSI = $66,990
BMW X1 sDrive 20i 2WD 105kw Petrol = $72,000
BMW X1 xDrive 20d 4WD 105kw TDI = $76,500
Mercedes GLA 220d 2WD 130kw TDI = $66,990
Mercedes GLA 250 4Matic 155kw Petrol = $79,300
The prices for the BMW and Mercedes are for the base models with no upgrades or option packs. They both come with less powerful engines than the R Line, less base options and smaller boot space by over 100L. By the time you add some of the options to both these to get it similar in spec to the R Line then you easily end up being $20k + more.
Personally I am not a huge fan of the interior styling of either of these two, don't like the screens on top of the dash as to me it looks more like an after thought than designed.
Both these models have been around for a while now, particularly the X1, so they look just like one of the many others already on the road. I particularly like the total redesigned styling on the new Tiguan, means it stands out more on the road than the other 2 or the old model Tiguan.
I get the frustration on having to wait for the 162kw model, I would love to get mine much sooner but I have a car to use in the meantime and would rather wait for this than rush to get something else.
This of course is just my opinion and pricing over in Aus is obviously different to here, plus we don't have the corporate discounts you get over there.
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Clearly MB in NZ don't care about market share!
GLA250 is $68K driveaway for me! That's every option ticked (including R line equivalent "AMG" pack), except for the premium Harmon Kardon audio which I don't think is worth it!
This price above includes the corporate discount which is a $1,950 dealer delivery (which is steep) and 3 years free service.
Take these into account and I think it's only $5-6K more for a GLA250 over a 162TSI.
You do have an extra 7kW and a better DSG.
Last edited by aussietig; 05-09-2016 at 09:08 PM.
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It shows the difference between the two markets. MB has always positioned themselves as a premium high end car dealer here in NZ and the prices are reflected. To add the AMG pack to the GLA 250 is another $3,800 plus a further $2,500 for the Driver Assistance pack that the R Line comes standard with. That makes the GLA 250 RRP here $85,000 now obviously you could negotiate a better price but they aren't going to knock $20k off the price. Instead I have gone with an R Line with Dynaudio (I realise for some strange reason you can't get this in Aus) for $66,500 drive away and comes with all the options I want/need.
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Not exactly accurate. I got a Highline 140TDI + R-Line + DAP + Tint for 57k driveaway. So it's not 5-6k, its more like 12-13k as he TSI is $1500 cheaper. I'm pretty happy with that price gap because the MB is not worth an extra 10k plus and its not new.
Last edited by stark27; 04-09-2016 at 07:28 PM.
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Yes each to their own!
Certainly for me ... I was intending to buy another Tig and have a brand new Golf 7 flappy paddle SW which I need to get rid of, to prove my point!
But I'm not going to pay $60K for a Tig again as this was a psychological barrier for me.
That's what I paid 5 years ago for the one in my signature, when the Highline 147TSI first came out.
It was a bargain back then because Audi, BMW and MB were totally out of reach by comparison.
Fast forward 5 years, the price is still the same, but Audi, BMW and MB have come down and are well within reach.
The point some of us original Tig lovers/owners are making is the disappointment that it hasn't maintained that value for money gap that made it a success in the past. Its prices have not come down along with the rest of the market.
A 140TDI is not a meaningful comparison with a GLA250. It's equivalent is the 162TSI.
$68K is the price I am paying only driveaway!
How can that be $12-13K more than the 162TSI which the best I could get it for was $59.6K?
Last edited by aussietig; 05-09-2016 at 08:55 PM.
MY11 Tiguan 147TSI (SOLD)
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The problem is I believe you, and some other previous Tiggy owners, still see the Tiggy as a middle class car where as I think it has grown up quite a bit from the previous mode and therefore demands the increase. You've gott MB/BMW/Audi on a pedastal which to you justifies them charging and extra 10k plus when it's not a better car (imo).
As for the price, I was able to get the TDI for 57k on the road so if you take off $1500 you could get a TSI for 55.5k. Another member has done just that through a broker who which I got the details for. In fact he got an extra $500 off polus a towbar, did even better.
Anyway, good luck witht he purchase.
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I couldn't agree more.
...and I'm glad that VW listen to their customers and build the quality car for which many are ready to pay a bit more.
If you think that MB or BMW are better, then go and check properly in the showroom MB car, see how the panels fit and quality of the finish. I personally couldn't buy MB and don't see BMW as the car that would last me 10 years without spending fortune on it to keep it on the road once it done 120,000km.
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