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Thread: A guide to enable EU specific features for AU Spec Tiguans

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    Quote Originally Posted by IsDon View Post
    Possibly, but TJA is definitely only low speed.
    Yes, and the videos on YT illustrate TJA below a threshhold speed of about 67KPH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozsko View Post
    Lane assist does what you describe above as well, let's clear up some terms as I do believe they are not being used accurately enough and that is leading to confusion by all....

    Lane assist....my car has this and it is activated and works above 65KPH. It is meant to give a warning and nudge the car back into the lane.

    Active Lane Assist...my car does not have this

    Adaptive Lane Guidance....my car does not have this

    Active Lane Guidance...my car does not have this
    Yes, getting clarity on all these subtlety different terms would be great. You've confused me again though!

    I thought the difference between Lane Assist and Active Lane Assist was that the former only provides a warning, it does not intervene. Whereas the latter will take control of the steering. Both only function at 65km/h+. So what you call "Lane Assist", I've been calling "Active Lane Assist".

    Active Lane Guidance - What is that?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by latearrival View Post
    Yes, getting clarity on all these subtlety different terms would be great. You've confused me again though!

    I thought the difference between Lane Assist and Active Lane Assist was that the former only provides a warning, it does not intervene. Whereas the latter will take control of the steering. Both only function at 65km/h+. So what you call "Lane Assist", I've been calling "Active Lane Assist".

    Active Lane Guidance - What is that?!
    I could be wrong as well but the terms I listed above are what I have seen written and I don't know the official VW speak surrounding them. My car with lane guidance if left to itself will wander to the left and align itself to the fog line on the left hand side of the road, it will even drive through a highway bend unassisted. It gives a warning if there is no indicator used and it is steered across a lane marking line, what is assistant is at play here? Terms need to be clarified before discussions become more confused so let's do it. The Passat, and Skoda Superb both have TJA, does anyone know where a PDF of both could be had?
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    I've had a quick look at the Australian-issued manual and it doesn't talk about Active Lane Assist vs (Passive) Lane Assist, or Active Lane Guidance vs Adaptive Lane Guidance. Just "Lane Assist" and "Adaptive Lane Guidance". Can I have a stab at some simple definitions?

    Lane Assist = Actively intervenes with corrective steering if the car is at risk of leaving the lane. Capable of aligning to a lane marking and following a bend in the freeway but does not align the car between the left and right lane markings.

    Adaptive Lane Guidance = Provides permanent assistance to keep the preferred position between two lane markings. (There has possibly been some mix-up of language across posts/reviews because ALG is described in the manual as part of the Lane Assist system rather than as something completely different).

    Traffic Jam Assist = Controls acceleration, braking and steering at speeds under 60km/h. (Manual: "An extension of the lane keeping system (Lane Assist), and combines this function with the Adaptive Cruise Control").

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozsko View Post
    Lane assist does what you describe above as well, let's clear up some terms as I do believe they are not being used accurately enough and that is leading to confusion by all....

    Lane assist....my car has this and it is activated and works above 65KPH. It is meant to give a warning and nudge the car back into the lane.

    Active Lane Assist...my car does not have this

    Adaptive Lane Guidance....my car does not have this

    Active Lane Guidance...my car does not have this

    Well ignore all the above it is a load of old rubbish and I will delete it after I have finished posting this amended version.

    My car has these options copied directly from the screen and including brackets, etc

    Lane Assist (lane departure warning sys.)

    Side assist (Lane change assist system)

    Adaptive Lane Guidance....my car does not have this

    Active Lane Guidance...my car does not have this

    I should never go from memory I suppose and now I will stand in the corner with the dunces hat on.

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    2 YouTube videos on VW Driver Assistance systems

    Hi All,
    To bring a standard understanding to the variety of terms used by VW and others regarding the various features available on VW cars I have found these videos from YouTube with date published.

    Published 29 August 2016
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_y--hlct60

    23 December 2016
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCwBgQY0q6E

    I hope this helps our collective understanding?

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    The only person(s) wearing a dunces hat should be whoever at VW thought that allowing so many variations between safety features among and across models of the same generation was a good idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ozsko View Post
    Active Lane Guidance.
    I'd love to know what this "Active Lane Guidance" feature is. Anyone?
    Last edited by latearrival; 22-03-2017 at 01:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by latearrival View Post
    The only person(s) wearing a dunces hat should be whoever at VW thought that allowing so many variations between safety features among and across models of the same generation was a good idea.



    I'd love to know what this "Active Lane Guidance" feature is that we do not have and that is not mentioned in the manual as far as I can tell.
    It is a term I saw written somewhere or I think I did, nothing more than that and if it is incorrect we can agree to drop it altogether.

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    Hi Latearrival,

    My experience with "active Lane Guidance" is in the Lane Cove tunnel in NSW. It has sweeping bends and a speed limit of 80 Km/Hr.

    I lightly keep hold of the steering wheel. I have set the ACC to 80KM. I then let the car steer and accelerate or brake according to the traffic ahead.

    I can feel the car turning the steering wheel into the corner when I approach the side of the lane. It slowly moves across the width of the lane until it "sees" the lane marker on the other side. It then gently steers keeping the car in the lane. At no time did I give any steering input to the car.

    I have the impression that the car will slowly "zig-zag" across the lane as you travel down the lane.

    The above is from my stock standard Tiguan with DAP.

    The reason it was working was because I was travelling at "highway" speed. (Above 65 Km/Hr)

    What we want to do is "activate" this feature below 65 Km/Hr.

    I hope the above helps.
    Regards,
    David
    Ordered: 2017 build date Tiguan 162 TSI Highline with DAP in Tungsten Silver and rear luggage tray. ETA: late April / Early May. I did not have to wait. I took delivery on 11 March 2017.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delewin View Post
    My experience with "active Lane Guidance" is in the Lane Cove tunnel in NSW....
    Thanks David. What you've described is just "Lane Assist" without Adaptive Lane Guidance. For TJA to work, I think we need low-speed Adaptive Lane Guidance too.
    Last edited by latearrival; 22-03-2017 at 03:03 PM. Reason: Edited to not sound so preachy given I'm pretty ignorant of this subject matter!

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