DSG and how to get the best of it

[Transporter]

I would not. Much slower, you generally lose boost on shift and, on the Golf R and S3 at least, you could be faced with clutch slip should you chose to tune the car.

I just drive on normal roads or off road and don't use the car on the race track. So, I don't experience any of what you just described.
But, if I tune the car and the clutch slips, I just upgrade the clutch.

[ewok666]

I just drive on normal roads or off road and don't use the car on the race track. So, I don't experience any of what you just described.
But, if I tune the car and the clutch slips, I just upgrade the clutch.

I don't drive on the race track either. I was merely pointing out potential limitations of a manual gearbox in the Tiguan because they are very real on other VW vehicles.

[Transporter]

I don't drive on the race track either. I was merely pointing out potential limitations of a manual gearbox in the Tiguan because they are very real on other VW vehicles.

It's all good.

After limitations, there are also many pluses, like greater reliability and longevity. When the driver use the clutch properly, the clutch should last at least 250,000km, and the clutch is very cheap compared to the automatic transmission (incl. DSG) rebuild, don't even need to mention expensive servicing every 60,000km.

...and if we're still talking about the transmission in Tiguan ( or any SUV), then the manual gearbox is better suited if you like to do a bit of off reading or you want to tow.

[ewok666]

...and if we're still talking about the transmission in Tiguan ( or any SUV), then the manual gearbox is better suited if you like to do a bit of off reading or you want to tow.

Absolutely, I actually prefer the manual gearbox especially for off roading.

[jdw]

Any thoughts on the Harding Performance DSG tune ? I am seriously thinking about it to get rid of the "race to 6th gear issue" and to make S mode less aggressive ....however at $1,295 its not cheap.

[ewok666]

Any thoughts on the Harding Performance DSG tune ? I am seriously thinking about it to get rid of the "race to 6th gear issue" and to make S mode less aggressive ....however at $1,295 its not cheap.

Is this on the new Tiguan?

[jdw]

Is this on the new Tiguan?

No, I have a GTI Performance.

[ewok666]

No, I have a GTI Performance.

Glad to hear that. The GTI, like the R and the S3 runs the DQ250 and it seems the VW engineers are outright to stupid to get the gear selection right. I can confirm that, before my DSG tune, D mode tried to get to 6th gear before I hit 60km/h while S mode held 2nd up to 4000 RPM even without accelerating. I got the tune and it made the problem go away, among other goodies, nut I was also told ( can't confirm) that the 7 speed DQ500 did not have the same issues.

[Transporter]

Glad to hear that. The GTI, like the R and the S3 runs the DQ250 and it seems the VW engineers are outright to stupid to get the gear selection right. I can confirm that, before my DSG tune, D mode tried to get to 6th gear before I hit 60km/h while S mode held 2nd up to 4000 RPM even without accelerating. I got the tune and it made the problem go away, among other goodies, nut I was also told ( can't confirm) that the 7 speed DQ500 did not have the same issues.

The VW engineers aren't stupid. The job number 1 for the DSG is to get the best fuel economy and they've done it well.

[ewok666]

The VW engineers aren't stupid. The job number 1 for the DSG is to get the best fuel economy and they've done it well.

How does holding 2nd to 4000 RPM help with that once you put it into sorts mode? Almost everyone I spoke to complained about that.