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Thread: dsg characteristic 1st-2nd change

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simonr23 View Post
    i tried the reset procedure, mentioned above. i dont think it worked, as a didnt hear any strange noises.

    just seems like in 20000kms time, i'm going to be here complaining about how my clutch is shuddering, when it was 'self' inflicted(by the car) if any manula car was driven the way this thing does the 1st-2nd change, the clutch would be stuffed in no time.

    never mind how it behaves under TJA mode in peak-hour traffic... as in 'holy clutch slip batman', type behaviour for a llooonnnggg time each time the car is nearly stopped and as it auto-creeps forward as the cars ahead do the same (most not dsg, or manuals)
    I have the same issue with my dq381 7 speed and it is tuned!
    In heavy traffic i use the paddles to hold it in 1st gear also do so in the morning coming up my steep driveway
    At 37k so far with no issues tho great gearbox otherwise

    Also get the tdi tuned i did and it transforms the drive the torque from 2 to 3k is just astounding and it pulls hard all the way to redline if you want
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    I’m ok with the power after 1800rpm, but actually a bit disturbed by how bad it is below that. Often it is in 3rd at slow suburban speeds(approx 1400rpm) and if I ask for some throttle, nothing useful happens. It takes several seconds to build up to 1800, then I’ve got power.

    Really strange.

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    This is why I got a Stage 1 tune. It's still not there and my son's I30 'feels' more zippy, but that's an illusion and there's just no comparison when you look at actual time to get up a hill rather than perceived time. Once the Tig gets going it takes off.

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    I thought the same, but after driving a polo 77, golf 110 and Tiguan 132, it’s been proven, sadly.

    Mine just has a big issue of lag/poor fueling, down low. I’d assume it’s to do with making the engines run in compliance mode at all times, or at least related to the newer euro standards.

    Disappointing, after my Mazda 6 diesel. That car weighed 250 less, to be balanced in my expectations, and had a smidge more torque, but less power.

    This car has less feeing of torque at low revs, than even my wife’s liana auto- itself a slow poke.

    My 0-100 is also 11 secs, rather then the 8.9(8.5 maybe?) it’s tested at in reviews.

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    I know you won't like hearing this but you've basically got 2 choices.

    1) Keep it stock and learn to live with the drive characteristics. This is unfortunately how the software has been set-up at the factory. It's not for drive-ability it's to meet tight emissions standards and has been detuned in certain areas (low rpm) to meet those specific emissions targets.

    2) Tune it (both DSG and ECU) and have it put a smile on your dial each time you drive it.

    Unfortunately the cars these days are engineered first for regulatory compliance and second for drive-ability. They tried to get around it but were caught...

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    [QUOTE=tigger73;1286465]I know you won't like hearing this but you've basically got 2 choices.

    1) Keep it stock and learn to live with the drive characteristics. This is unfortunately how the software has been set-up at the factory. It's not for drive-ability it's to meet tight emissions standards and has been detuned in certain areas (low rpm) to meet those specific emissions targets.

    2) Tune it (both DSG and ECU) and have it put a smile on your dial each time you drive it.

    Unfortunately the cars these days are engineered first for regulatory compliance and second for drive-ability. They tried to get around it but were caught...


    Yep tune it my alltrack does o-100 in 6 sec now everyone who has driven it goes wow!
    135kw/380nm TDI to 165kw/470nm Tuned 10,000km in

    2017 Golf Alltrack 135tdi All options
    19 inch Brescia Wheels Golf R brakes front and rear
    Calipers painted Candy apple gold
    New rear sway bar and linkages

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