APR Tune - 162TSI - worth every $$

[LJ1981]

So pretty much it’s golf R but FWD

[Sharkie]

So pretty much it’s golf R but FWD

Yes and about 200kg lighter .....

[tiggeroz]

Hey, has anyone heard of/installed this ECU tune/remap: Volkswagen Tiguan 162TSI Tune, ECU Tune and ECU Remap from Superchips Australia $800

Interesting in feedback. Seem reputable.

Superchips Volkswagen Tiguan 162TSI ECU Tune & ECU Remap (162 kW)(May-16 onwards)

[FastMitch]

Hey, has anyone heard of/installed this ECU tune/remap: Volkswagen Tiguan 162TSI Tune, ECU Tune and ECU Remap from Superchips Australia $800

"This is an extremely powerful and quality tune bringing final figures to over 200 kW!"

Website says you first send a copy of your current ECU and then they send you a tweaked ECU back within 3 days

1) Can you flash back to original prior to servicing ?

2) Can you flash multiple times ?

[tigger73]

Generally the Superchips tunes are fairly conservative tunes and don't push the envelope too much.

They're reasonably well priced but I would expect them to perform just a little bit above a JB4.

It's a budget tune and you generally get what you pay for.

Yes I think you can flash back to stock. As long as it's the same car you can flash multiple times. Which is one benefit. There are a number of other tuners out there that can supply similar hand-held controllers which allow similar functionality in terms of loading files.

No guarantees that it won't be detected even when you flash back to "stock". With some of these handheld devices your flash counter increments so it's a bit of a give-away that it has had the ECU written.

Personally if you're going to get a tune I would be getting one based on best performance, convenience, ease/cost of updates and support.

[FastMitch]

Personally if you're going to get a tune I would be getting one based on best performance, convenience, ease/cost of updates and support.

Which is the best place in VIC for the best performance tune but you get a handheld so you can flash back to stock for servicing ?

[tigger73]

Which is the best place in VIC for the best performance tune but you get a handheld so you can flash back to stock for servicing ?

A few tuners can do this. I know this is how Spectune (Tarmac) generally sells their tunes. Also you can do it with RD Technik but you have to pay for the handheld controller. Other tuners may also be able to supply their tunes on hand-held controllers but you'd have to talk to them directly.

Most people that get a tune don't take their cars back to the dealer for servicing and would only ever flash back to stock in the event of needing warranty work to be completed. If you go with a local tuner they will often be OK with flashing back to stock in these situations (though again no guarantees that this will mean the vehicle doesn't get flagged).

[Dose Pipe Sutututu]

Pay to Play really, if you want a tiny bit more kick without tuning? then you could improve items such as your intake, upgrade parts of the exhaust post the O2 sensor and factory cat and install a better FMIC to reduce IATs.

I'm going to go down this path, just waiting for a a 162 to pop up in a wrecking yard and grab the stock DP and stock exhaust system to hack up and do some back to back testing on a dyno.

[Boosted_GP]

I just had the stage one done on my 162. Drop in filter and grate removal only mods

Do you guys also get compressor surge (hear it but don’t feel it) on spool up (under 3000rpm)?

I’m impressed with the torque increase but the top end power doesn’t feel anything like the increase APR claim (78hp)




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[tigger73]

I just had the stage one done on my 162. Drop in filter and grate removal only mods

Do you guys also get compressor surge (hear it but don’t feel it) on spool up (under 3000rpm)?

I’m impressed with the torque increase but the top end power doesn’t feel anything like the increase APR claim (78hp)




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We’re still waiting for someone to do the before and after dynos to verify the APR (or any other tuner) claimed values.

APR tunes typically are aggressive at lower RPM and tend to fall off towards Redline. It’s just the way they approach tuning and you will likely feel that at’s running out of steam in the last 1,000rpm. If you look at their published dyno charts it shows this quite clearly what you’re feeling on your butt dyno:



Different tuners will do things differently and look to pull all the way to Redline but less aggressive early. Different schools of thought and approaches to tuning.

The APR claimed increases are based on the VW published figures (which are conservative numbers) and on a “calculated” engine power. It is my belief that the stock VW number is low as they publish a curve with the “nominal” engine power for the motor and not “actual”. The APR figure is not easily verifiable as their figures are flywheel numbers and are calculated using drivetrain losses which are estimated. Personally I don’t like this approach as I’d rather real world before/after dyno at wheel figures on a real car but it seems a lot of major tuners do this which makes verifying marketing claims almost impossible. Fuel quality will also come into it but that’s another topic completely.

My own personal experience running my 162TSI on the dyno is that stock it is putting out close to 180-185kw at the fly (140kwaw on the dyno). Therefore even if you get the 235kw flywheel figure APR claims, that’s around 67hp (not 7 increase from stock.

Plus the biggest difference between stock and stage 1 is at ~5,000rpm and after that the APR tune increase to stock drops off.

Only way to fix this is to install an IS38 turbo




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