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08-03-2023, 11:54 AM
Eman

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Originally Posted by h100vw

Better way to go is fit the supporting hardware. The IS38 wont perform that well without the hardware upgrades fitted. Be prepared to fit an intercooler, downpipe and intake before you get positive answers.

In theory, the golf R pushes 206kw on the IS38 turbo with stock DP and intercooler ( I understand the intercooler is different) Intercooler aside I should see massive gains in kw with my DP? Do you reckon the Golf R intercooler can be a direct bolt on to the Tiguan R Line i.e. pipes etc?
08-03-2023, 12:12 PM
Timmy35851

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Originally Posted by Eman

In theory, the golf R pushes 206kw on the IS38 turbo with stock DP and intercooler ( I understand the intercooler is different) Intercooler aside I should see massive gains in kw with my DP? Do you reckon the Golf R intercooler can be a direct bolt on to the Tiguan R Line i.e. pipes etc?

Certainly recommend the downpipe, intake and intercooler not required.

Spectune did mine (via Eurospec Tuning in Perth). Have been running for 2 years now with no issues.
08-03-2023, 01:05 PM
Eman

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Originally Posted by h100vw

underground performance have done several, Cheltenham

Underground performance said its possible however from the email I see that they prefer an upgraded intercooler and DP. I do not have either.
08-03-2023, 01:35 PM
h100vw

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Originally Posted by Eman

Underground performance said its possible however from the email I see that they prefer an upgraded intercooler and DP. I do not have either.

Doesn't seem right to half do the job.
17-03-2023, 10:09 AM
Eman

Okay.. there are not many places in Melbourne that have a software package for the Tig on the IS38 Turbo. So I will upgrade the intercooler and downpipe. I do not want to spend money until I know for certain that i can upgrade to the IS38. Do you guys know any other places I can consider to do this? I am only in the planning stage.
My thought process was I have the CHHB engine and IS20 turbo which is the same as the GTI so they should be the same to upgrade. There are so many GTI guys that are upgrading their Turbo's to the IS38.
thanks in advance.
17-03-2023, 03:35 PM
InsaneAsylum

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Originally Posted by Eman

Okay.. there are not many places in Melbourne that have a software package for the Tig on the IS38 Turbo. So I will upgrade the intercooler and downpipe. I do not want to spend money until I know for certain that i can upgrade to the IS38. Do you guys know any other places I can consider to do this? I am only in the planning stage.
My thought process was I have the CHHB engine and IS20 turbo which is the same as the GTI so they should be the same to upgrade. There are so many GTI guys that are upgrading their Turbo's to the IS38.
thanks in advance.

Wouldn't fitting an is38 make your engine the same as a Golf R engine and therefore a Golf R stage 1 tune would be appropriate, or Golf R stage 2 if you're fitting a DP as well.
17-03-2023, 03:42 PM
Lucas_R

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Originally Posted by Eman

Okay.. there are not many places in Melbourne that have a software package for the Tig on the IS38 Turbo. So I will upgrade the intercooler and downpipe. I do not want to spend money until I know for certain that i can upgrade to the IS38. Do you guys know any other places I can consider to do this? I am only in the planning stage.
My thought process was I have the CHHB engine and IS20 turbo which is the same as the GTI so they should be the same to upgrade. There are so many GTI guys that are upgrading their Turbo's to the IS38.
thanks in advance.

I would still stick with someone like Underground Performance or Etuners or Vtune Performance. Ben from Tarmac Engineering (Spectune) works with Vtune for their tuning files so im sure he could do something suitable for you. Another place to consider would be Peter from 3bar Performance.

You need someone like these places that are capable of doing custom tuning - places like APR / Revo / Racingline etc wont be able to help you as they only do off the shelf stuff for common configurations. If you don't want to upgrade the intercooler or downpipe then just tell them you want a milder tune due to standard hardware except for the turbo - you should be able to get something close to a stage 1 result on a Golf R which is around 220-230kw at the wheels which makes for a fast car.
20-03-2023, 08:13 AM
Eman

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Originally Posted by InsaneAsylum

Wouldn't fitting an is38 make your engine the same as a Golf R engine and therefore a Golf R stage 1 tune would be appropriate, or Golf R stage 2 if you're fitting a DP as well.

Thats the same way i am thinking but my internals are the same as the GTI.
20-03-2023, 08:18 AM
Eman

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Originally Posted by Lucas_R

I would still stick with someone like Underground Performance or Etuners or Vtune Performance. Ben from Tarmac Engineering (Spectune) works with Vtune for their tuning files so im sure he could do something suitable for you. Another place to consider would be Peter from 3bar Performance.

You need someone like these places that are capable of doing custom tuning - places like APR / Revo / Racingline etc wont be able to help you as they only do off the shelf stuff for common configurations. If you don't want to upgrade the intercooler or downpipe then just tell them you want a milder tune due to standard hardware except for the turbo - you should be able to get something close to a stage 1 result on a Golf R which is around 220-230kw at the wheels which makes for a fast car.

thanks for the info,that is a big help. I am just waiting on feedback from one of the providers. How does this affect my VW warranty if i went ahead with this ?
20-03-2023, 08:48 AM
Lucas_R

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Originally Posted by Eman

thanks for the info,that is a big help. I am just waiting on feedback from one of the providers. How does this affect my VW warranty if i went ahead with this ?

You can kiss the warranty goodbye on your engine and transmission.

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