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    140tdi stage1 tune recommendations in SA

    I’ve read about APR for the TSI engines, but a search on here, hasn’t brought up much info on the diesels.

    Any suggested workshops in SA?

    Googling suggests that apr and a couple of others (unsure of the source for those yet) go from 190hp to approx 220-230hp and torque from 400 to 450-500nm.

    Has anyone had this done and also any long-term engine/driveline durability reports?

    Cheers.

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    Not specifically south aus, but will be interested in responses you receive. One of the things holding me back on this is concern (maybe not the right word) over any long term transmission impacts.
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    The Tiguan should have come out with the V6 Turbo Diesel from the Amarok..

    Drove 1 for a day while VW were fixing the LED roof recall, was surprised with the power it had and how quick it felt 0-100 km/hr.
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    Yeah APR on do the petrol engines as they don’t get the diesels in the US.

    Speak to Callum at Haines Mechanical & Detail. He does RD Technik who also do a fair amount of diesel tuning.

    They can also do a DSG tune which is probably even more important to ensure you’re operating at max torque for the diesel. Otherwise it’ll still run a bit like a slug if you’re in the wrong gear.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Simonr23 View Post
    I’ve read about APR for the TSI engines, but a search on here, hasn’t brought up much info on the diesels.

    Any suggested workshops in SA?

    Googling suggests that apr and a couple of others (unsure of the source for those yet) go from 190hp to approx 220-230hp and torque from 400 to 450-500nm.

    Has anyone had this done and also any long-term engine/driveline durability reports?

    Cheers.
    More power is less engine life. Smaller the engine is the bigger impact on durability and 2.0TDI with 140kw is already on its limits. Though, it’s fine, if you don’t want your engine to last a long time and you’re prepared for some decrease in the reliability too.

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    Thanks tigger. I’ve emailed them to see what can be done.

    Also, apr don’t have anything for this engine/ecu combo yet.

    Edit- transporter, I’m hoping there is optimisation available for the existing hardware, to loose some extra power, rather than anything too extreme. Also, the 176kw version overseas seems to be reliable(I know it’s bi-turbo). I think ford have a small, high output tdi too.

    Cheers.
    Last edited by Simonr23; 29-04-2019 at 02:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simonr23 View Post
    Thanks tigger. I’ve emailed them to see what can be done.

    Also, apr don’t have anything for this engine/ecu combo yet.

    Edit- transporter, I’m hoping there is optimisation available for the existing hardware, to loose some extra power, rather than anything too extreme. Also, the 176kw version overseas seems to be reliable(I know it’s bi-turbo). I think ford have a small, high output tdi too.

    Cheers.
    Optimisation is usually 5-10kw max. Not +30kw. If you look closer at 176kw version, you’d see there are internal differences between the 2.

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    I think you’ll find all the latest TDIs have been “detuned” at lower rpm to keep emissions down. You’ll definitely pick up more torque down low which will be your biggest win in terms of how the car drives.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Transporter View Post
    More power is less engine life. Smaller the engine is the bigger impact on durability and 2.0TDI with 140kw is already on its limits. Though, it’s fine, if you don’t want your engine to last a long time and you’re prepared for some decrease in the reliability too.
    No ones driving around full throttle all day everyday to reduce engine life significantly. After tune low throttle is alot better with no negative effects to the engine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by INASNT View Post
    No ones driving around full throttle all day everyday to reduce engine life significantly. After tune low throttle is alot better with no negative effects to the engine.
    You and who ever wants to believe in that. It’s fine by me.

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