110TSI Comfortline fuel economy

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If you want to buy a 110TSI Tiguan you'll have to do it shortly as this model /engine has been discontinued in MY19 (arriving in September). It will depend on what stock is left in the country as likely there won't be much new stock of 110TSI cars arriving now.

The 110TSI should return better fuel economy (given same driving style) as it is FWD only and around 200kg lighter compared to the 132TSI/162TSI. Also it's likely that the reviewer in the article was given a new(ish) car and it can take several thousand km (as high as 5,000-10,000km) to fully bed in the engine and get close to the "normal" ongoing fuel consumption figures.

Finally it's hard to compare the 110TSI in a Golf to the Tiguan as although they are the same engine again it's different weight vehicle and the aero dag in the Tig will be higher.

My experience is that driving style (and terrain) has probably larger impact on fuel consumption than engine. This was also proven on a Top Gear episode comparing consumption of a Prius vs M5 driven around a tack at the same speed(not very scientific I know but proves a point).

My advice is to buy the car that suits your use and makes you happy.

Thanks Tigger73, what is your thinking bout the reason VW discontinue the 110tsi in MY19?

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[tigger73]

Thanks Tigger73, what is your thinking bout the reason VW discontinue the 110tsi in MY19?

I am almost sure it is to do with the issues they are having at the factory with complying with the new WLTP testing regulations (What is WLTP: the Worldwide Harmonised Light Vehicle Test Procedure? | WLTPfacts.eu).

This is causing major headaches for a number of European manufacturers. It is possible that the 110TSI will come back, however from around September you'll only be able to purchase a 132TSI or 162TSI Tiguan (or whatever old stock of 110TSI/110TDI/140TDI is still available).

There's quite a few articles about this and estimates say it is going to effect production of 250,000 cars:
VW will shut down production at main German plant in switch to WLTP emissions testing

VW says 250,000 cars could be delayed by new testing rules | Reuters

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I am almost sure it is to do with the issues they are having at the factory with complying with the new WLTP testing regulations (What is WLTP: the Worldwide Harmonised Light Vehicle Test Procedure? | WLTPfacts.eu).

This is causing major headaches for a number of European manufacturers. It is possible that the 110TSI will come back, however from around September you'll only be able to purchase a 132TSI or 162TSI Tiguan (or whatever old stock of 110TSI/110TDI/140TDI is still available).

There's quite a few articles about this and estimates say it is going to effect production of 250,000 cars:
VW will shut down production at main German plant in switch to WLTP emissions testing

VW says 250,000 cars could be delayed by new testing rules | Reuters

this is the one I found: Volkswagen admits it can't cope with new emissions tests - BBC News

[ArdiL]

Just my 2 cents worth.
Have been driving my 110TSI Tiguan Comfortline with DAP for 7 month now.
1 long trip from Adelaide to Melbourne and back recently but apart from that I drive 80% locally at 60 km/h and the occasional 90km/h.
I have found 60-70km/h to be the best however 90 and under still shows extremely good economy.
I reset my counters at EVERY FUEL FILL and I always try to fill the tank near empty, that is I usually put in atleast 50-55 litres and have also put in 60 litres on one occasion.
The worst mileage I got per tank was 740km, the best I achieved was around 870km.
From previous experience I found shell to be equal best with Caltex, However since new I have always used Caltex vortex95 in the Tiguan, until recently where I have tried 1 tank mobil 98 and 1 tank BP 98. Did NOT noticed anything special with these. Finally I decided to try Caltex 98 and I am still driving with half a tank on this. Most likely will see close to 900km I think. In any case I think I will stick to Caltex95 unless this Caltex 98 can justify itself.
Long trip to VIC and back at 110km/h and the occasional instant short bursts revealed that this engine is not designed for speed, it isnt economical (above 110km/h) and doesn't have any power if your looking for it. However in normal city traffic it does the job well. If your priority is economy and not so much power then its for you, otherwise it will disappoint. (However 2nd gear really impresses me).
Locally 7.1 is normal driving, and anything under that (6.1 onward) is mixed driving, I try to drive economically most of the time. (let the car roll to a stop when approaching lights etc.).
This is Just my experience.
I'm a happy camper.

[Golden_Zhang]

Just my 2 cents worth.
Have been driving my 110TSI Tiguan Comfortline with DAP for 7 month now.
1 long trip from Adelaide to Melbourne and back recently but apart from that I drive 80% locally at 60 km/h and the occasional 90km/h.
I have found 60-70km/h to be the best however 90 and under still shows extremely good economy.
I reset my counters at EVERY FUEL FILL and I always try to fill the tank near empty, that is I usually put in atleast 50-55 litres and have also put in 60 litres on one occasion.
The worst mileage I got per tank was 740km, the best I achieved was around 870km.
From previous experience I found shell to be equal best with Caltex, However since new I have always used Caltex vortex95 in the Tiguan, until recently where I have tried 1 tank mobil 98 and 1 tank BP 98. Did NOT noticed anything special with these. Finally I decided to try Caltex 98 and I am still driving with half a tank on this. Most likely will see close to 900km I think. In any case I think I will stick to Caltex95 unless this Caltex 98 can justify itself.
Long trip to VIC and back at 110km/h and the occasional instant short bursts revealed that this engine is not designed for speed, it isnt economical (above 110km/h) and doesn't have any power if your looking for it. However in normal city traffic it does the job well. If your priority is economy and not so much power then its for you, otherwise it will disappoint. (However 2nd gear really impresses me).
Locally 7.1 is normal driving, and anything under that (6.1 onward) is mixed driving, I try to drive economically most of the time. (let the car roll to a stop when approaching lights etc.).
This is Just my experience.
I'm a happy camper.

Thanks for sharing. Looking forward to pick my 110tsi comfortline later the week, would be one of the last few since this line discontinued.


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Just my 2 cents worth.
Have been driving my 110TSI Tiguan Comfortline with DAP for 7 month now.
1 long trip from Adelaide to Melbourne and back recently but apart from that I drive 80% locally at 60 km/h and the occasional 90km/h.
I have found 60-70km/h to be the best however 90 and under still shows extremely good economy.
I reset my counters at EVERY FUEL FILL and I always try to fill the tank near empty, that is I usually put in atleast 50-55 litres and have also put in 60 litres on one occasion.
The worst mileage I got per tank was 740km, the best I achieved was around 870km.
From previous experience I found shell to be equal best with Caltex, However since new I have always used Caltex vortex95 in the Tiguan, until recently where I have tried 1 tank mobil 98 and 1 tank BP 98. Did NOT noticed anything special with these. Finally I decided to try Caltex 98 and I am still driving with half a tank on this. Most likely will see close to 900km I think. In any case I think I will stick to Caltex95 unless this Caltex 98 can justify itself.
Long trip to VIC and back at 110km/h and the occasional instant short bursts revealed that this engine is not designed for speed, it isnt economical (above 110km/h) and doesn't have any power if your looking for it. However in normal city traffic it does the job well. If your priority is economy and not so much power then its for you, otherwise it will disappoint. (However 2nd gear really impresses me).
Locally 7.1 is normal driving, and anything under that (6.1 onward) is mixed driving, I try to drive economically most of the time. (let the car roll to a stop when approaching lights etc.).
This is Just my experience.
I'm a happy camper.

This is extremely helpful ArdiL, we have decided to go for a 110tsi based on this review. Thank you!!

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[PeteC]

I am almost sure it is to do with the issues they are having at the factory with complying with the new WLTP testing regulations.

This is causing major headaches for a number of European manufacturers. It is possible that the 110TSI will come back, however from around September you'll only be able to purchase a 132TSI or 162TSI Tiguan (or whatever old stock of 110TSI/110TDI/140TDI is still available).

It's a bit odd what you are saying, because for example in Malaysia, the Tiguan is only available with the 1.4 110TSI engine. Also I am being a European can tell, that most of the people there either drive a max 1.4 car or a TDI, due to the high petrol prices, but people are slowly turning away from the diesels.
So if it's true VW has to come up with something quick. What they will sell in Malaysia for example?

[tigger73]

It's a bit odd what you are saying, because for example in Malaysia, the Tiguan is only available with the 1.4 110TSI engine. Also I am being a European can tell, that most of the people there either drive a max 1.4 car or a TDI, due to the high petrol prices, but people are slowly turning away from the diesels.
So if it's true VW has to come up with something quick. What they will sell in Malaysia for example?

I can't say what is happening in other markets. I can only comment on what I know is happening here and what is being reported from the factory. VW has already admitted that it is not ready for WLTP certification and that it doesn't have enough testing cells to test all variants and options. They are going to be shutting down production and stockpiling cars.

A lot of Australian spec cars/engines are a different to those in other markets as they are detuned for "hot climate" conditions. I am sure there's been negotiations with each market to determine the priority in getting vehicles certified.

[ArdiL]

This is extremely helpful ArdiL, we have decided to go for a 110tsi based on this review. Thank you!!

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Then I will add one last negative comment, I had a 1.6TDI diesel Passat previously while in EU, the only similarity was the Turbo, You really have to get used to it. If you accelerate slowly (gradually) it is (nice and smooth) not an issue however if you press down less than half way and expect to accelerate somewhat then you wont get it as it may not be enough to trigger the kick down. You need to give it a good press down for kick down into lower gear. Its just a matter of adjusting your driving. I hate coming out of a corner and NOT pressing the accelerator down enough for it to kick down a gear and GO GO GO. You know the feeling you get when your expecting a take off and it doesn't happen. Your left with that forward crouch waiting for the pull.
As I said you get used to it, its a more economical way of driving I guess.
On the brighter side, Take off from the lights with a little pedal and when you hit 2nd gear you really feel the pull.

Comparing other features such as Lane assist and ACC with the Mazda a family member has, the VW does everything, But Better. VW just have too many advantages to even mention.

TEST DRIVE it before making a final decision. Too many people I know just sit in the car and look out the front window when evaluating a car. You need to be comfortable when driving the car. A mistake I ALMOST made.
If your budget is around 40K then 1.4TSI WITH DAP wont disappoint. (DAP is a must).

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Then I will add one last negative comment, I had a 1.6TDI diesel Passat previously while in EU, the only similarity was the Turbo, You really have to get used to it. If you accelerate slowly (gradually) it is (nice and smooth) not an issue however if you press down less than half way and expect to accelerate somewhat then you wont get it as it may not be enough to trigger the kick down. You need to give it a good press down for kick down into lower gear. Its just a matter of adjusting your driving. I hate coming out of a corner and NOT pressing the accelerator down enough for it to kick down a gear and GO GO GO. You know the feeling you get when your expecting a take off and it doesn't happen. Your left with that forward crouch waiting for the pull.
As I said you get used to it, its a more economical way of driving I guess.
On the brighter side, Take off from the lights with a little pedal and when you hit 2nd gear you really feel the pull.

Comparing other features such as Lane assist and ACC with the Mazda a family member has, the VW does everything, But Better. VW just have too many advantages to even mention.

TEST DRIVE it before making a final decision. Too many people I know just sit in the car and look out the front window when evaluating a car. You need to be comfortable when driving the car. A mistake I ALMOST made.
If your budget is around 40K then 1.4TSI WITH DAP wont disappoint. (DAP is a must).

Thanks for reply again. My daily drive is a 2016 c-class wagon with amg suspensions which makes the car very bumpy going over speed humps , when I compared the drive quality , the 110tsi is actually better for the needs of my wife ( carrying baby , shops, appointments etc..) and the interior is 10 times better than her previous 2016 discovery sport ( it was a base model.so the interior was very plain)

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