New Passat 206TSI R-Line

[kamold]

Hello all, I have just bought a Passat R Line MY17 with low KM's (Ex Melbourne). I am coming from a MY17 Ecoboost Mustang (full bolt on, ~295KW). Unortunately I had my Mustang written off and decided to go a little more family friendly but not SUV as I am over 4x4's etc having done 10+ years driving Landcruisers/Hiluxes/Rangers.

Anyway I hopefully get the vehicle in a few weeks, so starting to think about doing a couple minor mods but really having a difficult time to find any aftermarket parts for it or infact any good info sources. I haven't scoured this thread yet as I'm hoping there may be a good repository of info I am missing. At this stage I will either add in a drop in filter (K&N) or full intake and was looking into perhaps aftermarket intercooler to combat the aussie summers? If anyone has any suggestions etc? Not looking to make a race car but I know that there is a bit of performance left on the table with these cars as they are 220W in EU spec so not sure why detuned but I would probably think due to the Aussie heat conditions.

Thank you for any suggestions tips?

Start with an ecu tune.
Best bang for your buck.
Then see how you go from there plenty of options.

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Start with an ecu tune.
Best bang for your buck.
Then see how you go from there plenty of options.

So you mean a JB1 or JB4? Any local sites you would suggest looking at, my google fu is letting me down with what I am finding so far.

[kamold]

They are an option as are direct ecu tunes like APR, Revo, Etuners, Racing line etc

So you mean a JB1 or JB4? Any local sites you would suggest looking at, my google fu is letting me down with what I am finding so far.

[Frag]

Thanks, is there a good resource on these? From what I can work out the JB1 etc is a simple piggyback to trick into more boost, the others would be a complete rewrite of ecu yeah? I'll google around, I see your octavia has a Revo and I have seen the APR pop up a fair bit from tid bits I can find.

Are they easy to remove prior to service and reapply (ala Cobb style)

[kamold]

Yes piggyback tunes trick the ecu by modifying the data from sensors.
Physically removable however these days they are still detectable by the dealer software given how they have pushed the ecu outside of its expected parameters.

A full remap tune where the ecu map is rewritten is arguably a more complete approach to performance as it is working with the actual sensors inputs but modifying the ecu outputs.

Any big name tuner will give you great results.
Your best bet is to use a supplier that has a local presence and support.

Either piggyback or ecu remap will likely trigger a flag at the dealer so it's up to you if you want to take that on.

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Yes piggyback tunes trick the ecu by modifying the data from sensors.
Physically removable however these days they are still detectable by the dealer software given how they have pushed the ecu outside of its expected parameters.

A full remap tune where the ecu map is rewritten is arguably a more complete approach to performance as it is working with the actual sensors inputs but modifying the ecu outputs.

Any big name tuner will give you great results.
Your best bet is to use a supplier that has a local presence and support.

Either piggyback or ecu remap will likely trigger a flag at the dealer so it's up to you if you want to take that on.

Thanks, I found a local dealer "EuroCare" for APR (and others) so will have a chat. I intend to keep the VW for 3-4 years so dont want to go nuts but I know the engine has been tuned different for the Passat vs the Golf R (as well I assume the DGS) so will just see. My Ecoboost had the full treatment FMIC, Intake, Sparks, Catch Can, Cat Back, Cobb AP, Pro Tune etc etc.. I dont want to go quite that far this time but yeah wouldnt mind just getting a little more response - in the end I havent even driven a Passat R line, but bought it after driving the 206 Skoda Superb Sportswagon. While the thing was very brisk it did have a significant lag from WOT to actual car moving (felt like a good 1-1.5 seconds).

Unfortunately these cars are rare in Perth and the pricing is shocking, so was cheaper to buy ex Melb. I sat in a R Line at a local dealer and pulled the trigger thinking the drive will be similar/better than the MY16 Sportswagon i drove..

Anyway, thanks for the help - I'll chat to the guys/gals at EuroCare here in Perth and take it from there based on their recommendations. Its meant as a Dad wagon but its going to be hard to go to something slow after the Mustang haha..

I guess I always want to talk to people with experience first so when i do talk to a pro I know when they try and sell you special sauce that isn't so special.. Likewise I am getting ready to hear stupid costs involved as opposed to having done everything on my previous car myself (I paid under 3k, vs 9k through local "workshop" for lower level mods!!!)

[kamold]

Thanks, I found a local dealer "EuroCare" for APR (and others) so will have a chat. I intend to keep the VW for 3-4 years so dont want to go nuts but I know the engine has been tuned different for the Passat vs the Golf R (as well I assume the DGS) so will just see. My Ecoboost had the full treatment FMIC, Intake, Sparks, Catch Can, Cat Back, Cobb AP, Pro Tune etc etc.. I dont want to go quite that far this time but yeah wouldnt mind just getting a little more response - in the end I havent even driven a Passat R line, but bought it after driving the 206 Skoda Superb Sportswagon. While the thing was very brisk it did have a significant lag from WOT to actual car moving (felt like a good 1-1.5 seconds).

Unfortunately these cars are rare in Perth and the pricing is shocking, so was cheaper to buy ex Melb. I sat in a R Line at a local dealer and pulled the trigger thinking the drive will be similar/better than the MY16 Sportswagon i drove..

Anyway, thanks for the help - I'll chat to the guys/gals at EuroCare here in Perth and take it from there based on their recommendations. Its meant as a Dad wagon but its going to be hard to go to something slow after the Mustang haha..

I guess I always want to talk to people with experience first so when i do talk to a pro I know when they try and sell you special sauce that isn't so special.. Likewise I am getting ready to hear stupid costs involved as opposed to having done everything on my previous car myself (I paid under 3k, vs 9k through local "workshop" for lower level mods!!!)

For under $1300 you will get a lot more smile on your dial with a reputable ecu tune.
Drive it stock for at least a few weeks so you get to appreciate how much they are being back in stock form...

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For under $1300 you will get a lot more smile on your dial with a reputable ecu tune.
Drive it stock for at least a few weeks so you get to appreciate how much they are being back in stock form...

Yeah I will definitely drive it for a little to get a feel first, might even enjoy the "sedate" drive stock

$1300 for a ECU tune? You're kidding right? I presume that is at least a complete Dyno tune sessions and transmission tune then right?

If thats for just an OTS ECU reload that is laughably expensive!

[kamold]

Yeah I will definitely drive it for a little to get a feel first, might even enjoy the "sedate" drive stock

$1300 for a ECU tune? You're kidding right? I presume that is at least a complete Dyno tune sessions and transmission tune then right?

If thats for just an OTS ECU reload that is laughably expensive!

I've said 'under' as I'm not up to date with current prices. I'm sure you can do some local research...

[kamold]

I had an APR tune in my A3 2.0tfsi Quattro.
Very similar to your Passat R in most respects except a bit of weight.
Made it an awesome little car.