New Passat 206TSI R-Line

[kamold]

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It will be more expensive. So it may come down mostly to value for money...

They look very nice. A lot of tech.
Only shame is the T8 not making it here. But I'd imagine they'd be pretty exxy if they did.

[chopper]

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It will be more expensive. So it may come down mostly to value for money...

It's not just a bit more expensive... it will be at least 50% more expensive! (More, if you spec like-for-like). Nice car though...

[Rocket36]

Yeah it'll be $80k + on the road.

Beautiful car but don't think the value for money will beat the VW.

[SMOKEY]

Nice looking car but fairly different approach. That is a large family luxury hauler, as opposed to a sports wagon. (It's only an inch shorter than their largest car, an XC90 SUV)

The Volvo V60 Polestar is probably closer in both application and price to the 206TSI (and with much nicer brakes and wheels)


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[Rocket36]

The V60 is a LOT smaller than a Passat wagon though...

[wm7503]

Correct!


The car (as a wagon) is $59,990, roof $2,000, paint $700. I don't know how everyone else feels about on-road costs, but I refuse to pay them. Shop around, there's usually a dealer who's willing to do a deal. I wouldn't pay more than $62,700 for a fully loaded wagon, drive away.

What you need to see is that the $59,990 does not include GST. When you add roof and paint and GST you are about the 69k as a base price, then add for a new car Reg $750 and stamp duty $1900 and it's 72k list drive away.

I don't see how you can avoid GST unless you are buying through a business and can claim it, or you are some sort of tax guru. As for rego and stamp these are also government charges so its not possible to avoid these.
I don't see how you refuse to pay GST, REGO and STAMPS.... the car will not be legal to drive on the road!!! The only thing you can do is negotiate the $62,700..... And if you do things right you can get yourself a good deal, but you still have to pay the on road costs......

[booba]

What you need to see is that the $59,990 does not include GST. When you add roof and paint and GST you are about the 69k as a base price, then add for a new car Reg $750 and stamp duty $1900 and it's 72k list drive away.

I don't see how you can avoid GST unless you are buying through a business and can claim it, or you are some sort of tax guru. As for rego and stamp these are also government charges so its not possible to avoid these.
I don't see how you refuse to pay GST, REGO and STAMPS.... the car will not be legal to drive on the road!!! The only thing you can do is negotiate the $62,700..... And if you do things right you can get yourself a good deal, but you still have to pay the on road costs......

I don't think he is avoiding paying these charges. The dealer brings the price of the base car down enough so that the gst, rego, dealer delivery are included in the 62,700.

[chopper]

What you need to see is that the $59,990 does not include GST. When you add roof and paint and GST you are about the 69k as a base price, then add for a new car Reg $750 and stamp duty $1900 and it's 72k list drive away.

I don't see how you can avoid GST unless you are buying through a business and can claim it, or you are some sort of tax guru. As for rego and stamp these are also government charges so its not possible to avoid these.
I don't see how you refuse to pay GST, REGO and STAMPS.... the car will not be legal to drive on the road!!! The only thing you can do is negotiate the $62,700..... And if you do things right you can get yourself a good deal, but you still have to pay the on road costs......

The $59,990 is GST inclusive. The $2,000 is also GST inclusive, as is the $700. These are the list prices advertised by VW... all other 'on road' charges are then added by the dealer. I don't pay for car washes (otherwise know as dealer delivery) and the dealer can cover the rest (rego etc.) from their holdback on the vehicle. Generally, car sales are about volume, not profit on sales... unless they get a sucker who is so desperate, they'll pay anything.

You may be confusing GST for LCT (or luxury car tax). At $62,700, the car is below the LCT threshold ($64,132) and therefore exempt. If you are paying over $72,000 for the car, you will be subject to LCT... and adds 33c for every dollar over the threshold you are. It adds up quickly... and $72,000 for the car has $2,000 of LCT on it!

Like I said, I wouldn't pay more than $62,700 (including GST) for the car, drive away (and fully registered! ��).

(Edit - I should probably add, we've ordered one... so I'm not talking out of my butt!)

[SMOKEY]

I want to believe in @chopper 's version of events!

I also wouldn't let them detail my car prior to pickup, they mostly do more harm than good.


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[chopper]

I want to believe in @chopper 's version of events!

I also wouldn't let them detail my car prior to pickup, they mostly do more harm than good.

Ahhh... I think we've had a communication failure!

Let me try and clarify... the car is ordered and delivered as normal. I just negotiate the price to the point where the 'on-road' costs (stamp duty, rego, dealer delivery) are included, or I don't buy the car. There's usually a dealer who's willing to do it.

Don't believe them when they tell you they can't possibly do it... that they're losing money on the car. There's a thing called 'holdback'. They will show you the invoice for the car, saying 'I can't possibly sell it below cost'... which is true, but the dealer is allowed to 'hold back' part of the invoice cost (either a percentage or lump sum) per sale. They also work on sales targets from the manufacturer. Exceeding the target gives the dealer massive benefits. A sale lost to another dealer (depending on the circumstance) can have a huge effect.

In short... push hard, even if the car is new. As I said before, I wouldn't pay more than $62,700 for a fully loaded 206TSI.