MY19 Passat

[Jimi]

Where’d you hear this from Tigger? Any additional info?

I wonder if the diesel cull will extend to the Q5, etc.

Would it apply in Europe too? Same engines... or is it just a need to simplify ranges everywhere because of WLTP?

[tigger73]

I heard it from the Sales Manager of the dealership that I'm purchasing my Tiguan from. He told me that MY19 Tiguan changes had just been announced and all the diesels had been discontinued (as well as the 118TSI). He also confirmed that the Passat diesels were gone which was announced in May. This comes on top of Skoda announcing the discontinuation of all their diesels also.

So I'm guessing it's across the entire VAG range. I'm not sure if it effects the larger capacity 6 cylinder diesels in the Touareg or the commercial vehicles but it sounds like the passenger cars are all being pulled for MY19. My guess is that the cars wouldn't meet the WLTP test and so have been withdrawn from sale (which would apply in Europe as well as here). Whether they will come back is questionable and will be interesting to see what happens with other manufacturers.

[Jimi]

Thank Tigger. It’s interesting to think through the implications of this for resale of existing diesels (maybe good?) as well as what the smaller range means for new petrol sales (my key interest). Either:

- less choice means less supply and therefore it’s harder to drive a discount; or
- less choice means fewer sales and dealers therefore more desperate to do a deal. An imminent facelift can’t hurt either.

[tigger73]

I think overall VW sales will go down as people wanting a Diesel engine car will be forced to shop other brands.

I suspect dealers will be keener than ever to do a deal - especially regional dealers where the % of diesel sales would be higher.


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[crash486]

Then last night I see Hyundai's Kona is getting diesel and Mazda advertising economy and reliability of diesels.
Maybe they are going after niche that VW have left.

Crash486

[limiteded]

Confirmed all diesel variants (including Alltrack) are no longer available in MY19.

Thats pretty heavy. Im surprised that Michael Bartsch hasnt delivered information like that in a media release, rather than us hearing it just by a dealership Manager from a dealer bulletin. It has to surely be a temporary measure until the W LTP is sorted out. It looks like on VW germany that the engine Options have been reduced/ rationalised aspart of W LTP, But the diesels have not been cut altogether.
Wltp is causing massive headaches for production staff, with what seems to be forced slow downs/stops to production in plants in germany in the 4th quarter
Ive just drove around germany for the last 10 days in a new passat manual 110TDI Wagon , and it was awesome on the fuel economy and had pleanty of pull on the autobahns at 175km/h (not willing to go any faster)

[tigger73]

Yeah not sure if this is a temporary measure only or if it’s permanent.

Or the other thing may be due to foreseen production problems they’ve restricted Aus to petrol only.

Only time will tell.


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[FarQ]

lucky i got my passat alltrack when i did then.....

[tigger73]

lucky i got my passat alltrack when i did then.....

There's still a few around but yes once these are gone there's no guarantees that we'll get them back.

[FarQ]

There's still a few around but yes once these are gone there's no guarantees that we'll get them back.

Yeah, hardly any alltrack wolfys. As the Active Info Dash is the ducks nuts...