7 Speed DSG starting soon?

[Jimi]

Both the 206 6 speed and the new 7 speed for the TDI are in the high torque (wet) category. As the flagship it doesn’t make sense.

Hopefully a facelift is imminent

[tigger73]

Yes so as per the VW MY18.5 update document it looks like:

132TSI = 7 speed DQ200 dry DSG
140TDI = 7 speed DQ380 wet DSG
206TSI = 6 speed DQ250 wet DSG

It does seem a bit of an anomoly. I'm guessing the 206TSI Passat is going to get engine/gearbox updates for MY19 in September. I suspect VW still wants to have some differentiation between the Passat and the Arteon. My tip is that the Passat gets the 7 speed DQ380 and the Arteon gets the engine upgrade to 213kW... but this is only my guess.

But yes until then it seems that the tables are turned a bit.

[Jimi]

Also worth noting that the DQ380 is used widely in the Tiguan range including the 162tsi and even perhaps the 132tsi as well, both of which have less or similar torque to the Passat 206tsi

[Pass2093]

I've just noticed that as of yesterday the VW Aus site is showing the Alltrack as 7 Speed DSG and you can no longer build the Wolfsburg edition. The MY 18.5 brochure is ambiguous saying 6 in some parts and 7 in others. Does anyone know for sure when the 7 speeds DSG (wet clutch) is coming to the Passat in Australia? I didn't think this would happen until the 8.5 update sometime next year.

Cheers,
Karl

Can I ask where you are viewing the MY18.5 Passat brochure ? The brochure available on the AU VW website was issued Sept 2017 which would still be the MY18 model.

[Jondalar]

Can I ask where you are viewing the MY18.5 Passat brochure ? The brochure available on the AU VW website was issued Sept 2017 which would still be the MY18 model.

I got a brochure from the dealer printed January 2018. The top part before specifications has been updated, this is the same on the download. It says before the specifications section VWPASSALMY18.5. Also not the brochure but the specifications that you can download at the bottom of the Alltrack page just above explore the range. This says 18.5 in the name.

Cheers
Karl

[tigger73]

Also worth noting that the DQ380 is used widely in the Tiguan range including the 162tsi and even perhaps the 132tsi as well, both of which have less or similar torque to the Passat 206tsi

The Tiguan has the DQ500 7 speed wet DSG - same as Transporter, Q5 and TT-RS. It’s designed for high torque/high load applications.


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[tigger73]

Can I ask where you are viewing the MY18.5 Passat brochure ? The brochure available on the AU VW website was issued Sept 2017 which would still be the MY18 model.

Often VW doesn’t reprint brochures for the mid-year update as often the changes are minimal. I think they’ve just updated the specs document.

There’s a link a few posts back to the MY18.5 changes across the range. MY18.5 cars started in calendar week 45 2017.


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[Jondalar]

Both the 206 6 speed and the new 7 speed for the TDI are in the high torque (wet) category. As the flagship it doesn’t make sense.

Hopefully a facelift is imminent

Skoda Superb isn't getting an update until mid 2019 so I wouldn't hold me breath for a facelift. I've not heard of the 206 being paired with the 7 speed wet clutch in anything, you'd think they'd give it to the Arteon first if they were. I test drove one of those but the lag was terrible. I suspect it will have to wait for the 213kW equivalent motor.

[tigger73]

Skoda Superb isn't getting an update until mid 2019 so I wouldn't hold me breath for a facelift. I've not heard of the 206 being paired with the 7 speed wet clutch in anything, you'd think they'd give it to the Arteon first if they were. I test drove one of those but the lag was terrible. I suspect it will have to wait for the 213kW equivalent motor.

Arteon has the DQ380 wet 7 speed DSG matched to 206TSI engine.

Will be interesting to see what VW/Skoda do with the Passat/Superb in the next 12 months. It may also come down to what allocation they can get from the factory.


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[Jondalar]

Ahh OK well the Arteon I test drove definitely only had the 6 speed. Older model I guess (was discounted about $15k) Didn't like it anyway, very poor rear visibility and rear seat headroom too lacking.