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    Electric Park Brake controller replacement

    Hi All,

    I've replaced the failing park brake control module with a new revision 3AA907801E module.
    I've coded the module correctly and it is functioning (park brake is correctly engaging and disengaging with the button or automatically as expected).

    However I've also upset the associated systems (as expected) and not sure how to correct them...
    I understand I need to correct the ABS module fault codes to get to the next step. However when I go into the ABS module and try to select the basic settings, to for example try and do the G251 adaptation, the channel is reported as unavailable...

    I'm able to start the car, disengage the park brake and drive but I have ESP and ABS disabled currently.
    Any suggestions appreciated.
    Thanks


    Abridged VCDS scan is in next post:
    2011 Skoda Octavia vRS TDI DSG wagon|Revo Stage 1|Race Blue|Leather|Dynamic Xenons w 6000K|9w7 BT|THA475 Amp+active sub|Whiteline ALK|RVC|
    2009 R36 wagon|Biscay Blue|RVC|Tailgate|ECU and DSG tune|LED DRL/Indicators|3D colour cluster|Quad LED tail rings|Climatronics upgrade|Dynaudio retrofit|B7 RLine Flat Steering Wheel|3AA CCM|TPMS Direct|B7 Adaptive Cruise with Front Assist|Discover Media retrofit|PLA 2.0|Lane Assist|BCM retrofit|High Beam Assist|DQ500

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    Code:
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    Address 01: Engine (BWS)       Labels: 03H-906-032-BLV.clb
       Part No SW: 03H 906 032 AM    HW: 03H 906 032 AB
       Component: R3.6-FSI-EU4    G   3488  
       Revision: 5GH04---    Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
       Coding: 0000175
       Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
       VCID: 6DDA3B177498A22BA0-8038
    
    3 Faults Found:
    005715 - Please check DTC Memory of ABS Controller 
                   P1653 - 004 - 
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 3
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 87444 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2016.05.23
                        Time: 10:48:29
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 0 /min
                        Load: 0.0 %
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Temperature: 50.0°C
                        Temperature: 45.0°C
                        Absolute Pres.: 1000.0 mbar
                        Voltage: 11.938 V
    
    049508 - No Communications with HVAC Control Module (J301) 
                   U0164 - 008 - 
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101000
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 87444 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2016.05.23
                        Time: 10:48:30
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 0 /min
                        Load: 0.0 %
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Temperature: 50.0°C
                        Temperature: 45.0°C
                        Absolute Pres.: 1000.0 mbar
                        Voltage: 11.938 V
    
    005715 - Please check DTC Memory of ABS Controller 
                   P1653 - 001 - 
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100001
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 3
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 87444 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2016.05.23
                        Time: 10:48:32
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 0 /min
                        Load: 0.0 %
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Temperature: 50.0°C
                        Temperature: 45.0°C
                        Absolute Pres.: 1000.0 mbar
                        Voltage: 11.938 V
    
    Readiness: 0110 0101
    
    ----------------------------------
    
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 3C0-614-109-C4.clb
       Part No SW: 3C0 614 109 P    HW: 3C0 614 109 P
       Component: J104    C4 440 V2   0011  
       Revision: --025---    Serial number: 00000786146748
       Coding: 0001439
       Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
       VCID: 2B5EF50F8A0C6C1BFE-807E
    
    5 Faults Found:
    00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
                005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
    01542 - Yaw Rate Sensor (G202) 
                005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
    01423 - Lateral Acceleration Sensor (G200) 
                005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
    01279 - Longitudinal Acceleration Sensor (G251) 
                005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
    00810 - Sensor 1/2 for Brake Pressure 
                005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
    
    ----------------------------
    -
    Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 3AA-907-801.clb
       Part No SW: 3AA 907 801 E    HW: 3AA 907 801 E
       Component: J540 EPB4  VW-55183 0007  
       Revision:   H18       Serial number: 00000000155378
       Coding: 0021057
       Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
       VCID: 336EED6F523C34DBB6-8066
    
    8 Faults Found:
    02844 - Lamp for Automatic Parking Function 
                009 - Open or Short to Ground
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01111001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 164
                        Mileage: 87444 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2016.05.23
                        Time: 10:50:21
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Voltage: 11.80 V
                        Count: 81
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Hex Value: 0x1250
                        Hex Value: 0x0001
                        Hex Value: 0x0101
    
    02430 - Left Parking Brake Motor (V282) Resistance to Movement 
                000 -  - 
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01110000
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 164
                        Mileage: 87444 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2016.05.23
                        Time: 10:50:45
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Voltage: 10.40 V
                        Count: 23
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Hex Value: 0x1251
                        Hex Value: 0x0001
                        Hex Value: 0x0808
    
    02431 - Right Parking Brake Motor (V283) Resistance to Movement 
                000 -  - 
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01110000
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 164
                        Mileage: 87444 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2016.05.23
                        Time: 10:50:45
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Voltage: 10.40 V
                        Count: 24
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Hex Value: 0x1251
                        Hex Value: 0x0001
                        Hex Value: 0x0808
    
    03263 - Functional Restriction 
                008 - Implausible Signal
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101000
                        Fault Priority: 1
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 164
                        Mileage: 87444 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2016.05.23
                        Time: 10:51:11
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Voltage: 11.80 V
                        Count: 135
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Hex Value: 0x1240
                        Hex Value: 0x0001
                        Hex Value: 0x0404
    
    01316 - ABS Control Module 
                013 - Check DTC Memory
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01111101
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 7
                        Reset counter: 164
                        Mileage: 22159 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2015.06.08
                        Time: 00:09:40
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Voltage: 10.30 V
                        Count: 69
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Hex Value: 0x12E0
                        Hex Value: 0x0001
                        Hex Value: 0x0202
    
    03200 - Switch for Electric Parking Brake (E538) 
                012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00101100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 2
                        Reset counter: 204
                        Mileage: 87444 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2016.05.23
                        Time: 10:52:11
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Voltage: 11.80 V
                        Count: 9
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Hex Value: 0x1242
                        Hex Value: 0x0001
                        Hex Value: 0x0404
    
    01087 - Basic Setting Not Performed 
                000 -  - 
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01110000
                        Fault Priority: 1
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 164
                        Mileage: 87444 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2016.05.23
                        Time: 10:37:36
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Voltage: 11.90 V
                        Count: 41
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Hex Value: 0x1250
                        Hex Value: 0x0001
                        Hex Value: 0x0101
    
    01279 - Longitudinal Acceleration Sensor (G251) 
                005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01110101
                        Fault Priority: 1
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 164
                        Mileage: 87444 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2016.05.23
                        Time: 10:37:36
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Voltage: 11.90 V
                        Count: 99
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Hex Value: 0x1250
                        Hex Value: 0x0001
                        Hex Value: 0x0101
    2011 Skoda Octavia vRS TDI DSG wagon|Revo Stage 1|Race Blue|Leather|Dynamic Xenons w 6000K|9w7 BT|THA475 Amp+active sub|Whiteline ALK|RVC|
    2009 R36 wagon|Biscay Blue|RVC|Tailgate|ECU and DSG tune|LED DRL/Indicators|3D colour cluster|Quad LED tail rings|Climatronics upgrade|Dynaudio retrofit|B7 RLine Flat Steering Wheel|3AA CCM|TPMS Direct|B7 Adaptive Cruise with Front Assist|Discover Media retrofit|PLA 2.0|Lane Assist|BCM retrofit|High Beam Assist|DQ500

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    There's no Basic Setting/Adaptation for them in the electric power steering module?

    I'd be inclined to take it for a short drive.

    Find somewhere quiet, turn the car off, restart, accelerate to above 20km/h, stop in a straight line, then accelerate to +20kmh again and turn the steering wheel full lock each way then stop in a staight line with the wheel centred.

    It may be enough to clear most of the faults, and narrow it down to just a few.

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    Thanks for the suggestions

    I went into the steering assist module to try and calibrate the G85 steering angle sensor, but VCDS reports that the channel group (60) is not available...?

    Will have to try to see if the car will calibrate itself using the 'drive it around for a while' method (coupled with your much more scientific one above)
    2011 Skoda Octavia vRS TDI DSG wagon|Revo Stage 1|Race Blue|Leather|Dynamic Xenons w 6000K|9w7 BT|THA475 Amp+active sub|Whiteline ALK|RVC|
    2009 R36 wagon|Biscay Blue|RVC|Tailgate|ECU and DSG tune|LED DRL/Indicators|3D colour cluster|Quad LED tail rings|Climatronics upgrade|Dynaudio retrofit|B7 RLine Flat Steering Wheel|3AA CCM|TPMS Direct|B7 Adaptive Cruise with Front Assist|Discover Media retrofit|PLA 2.0|Lane Assist|BCM retrofit|High Beam Assist|DQ500

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    Looks like I need to put in the security code first:

    VW Golf (1K) Steering Assist - Ross-Tech Wiki

    I'll check this later
    2011 Skoda Octavia vRS TDI DSG wagon|Revo Stage 1|Race Blue|Leather|Dynamic Xenons w 6000K|9w7 BT|THA475 Amp+active sub|Whiteline ALK|RVC|
    2009 R36 wagon|Biscay Blue|RVC|Tailgate|ECU and DSG tune|LED DRL/Indicators|3D colour cluster|Quad LED tail rings|Climatronics upgrade|Dynaudio retrofit|B7 RLine Flat Steering Wheel|3AA CCM|TPMS Direct|B7 Adaptive Cruise with Front Assist|Discover Media retrofit|PLA 2.0|Lane Assist|BCM retrofit|High Beam Assist|DQ500

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    Ok that worked, was able to correctly perform basic adaptation on the G85 steering angle sensor.
    Now to do the same for the sensors in the ABS module:
    VW Tiguan (5N) Brake Electronics - Ross-Tech Wiki
    2011 Skoda Octavia vRS TDI DSG wagon|Revo Stage 1|Race Blue|Leather|Dynamic Xenons w 6000K|9w7 BT|THA475 Amp+active sub|Whiteline ALK|RVC|
    2009 R36 wagon|Biscay Blue|RVC|Tailgate|ECU and DSG tune|LED DRL/Indicators|3D colour cluster|Quad LED tail rings|Climatronics upgrade|Dynaudio retrofit|B7 RLine Flat Steering Wheel|3AA CCM|TPMS Direct|B7 Adaptive Cruise with Front Assist|Discover Media retrofit|PLA 2.0|Lane Assist|BCM retrofit|High Beam Assist|DQ500

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    This is why I mentioned ages ago to avoid replacing the module unless you absolutely have to

    It was hard enough to do with VAS-PC, even with online coding and step-by-step testplans. I don't wish it upon anyone, so all the best with it.

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    Its a bit of a mission getting to the control module too, have to pull the whole centre console out (well lift it up anyway) but nothing too crazy.
    I needed to replace it, don't want to get stranded with the park brake stuck on, and switch replacement hadn't resolved the issue.

    The only thing I was missing was that I needed to put in the security code before trying to access basic settings. VCDS should give a more meaningful error (ie check security code or something) rather than 'channel group not available'
    2011 Skoda Octavia vRS TDI DSG wagon|Revo Stage 1|Race Blue|Leather|Dynamic Xenons w 6000K|9w7 BT|THA475 Amp+active sub|Whiteline ALK|RVC|
    2009 R36 wagon|Biscay Blue|RVC|Tailgate|ECU and DSG tune|LED DRL/Indicators|3D colour cluster|Quad LED tail rings|Climatronics upgrade|Dynaudio retrofit|B7 RLine Flat Steering Wheel|3AA CCM|TPMS Direct|B7 Adaptive Cruise with Front Assist|Discover Media retrofit|PLA 2.0|Lane Assist|BCM retrofit|High Beam Assist|DQ500

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    All good now, was able to run the basic settings tests on the ABS module and EPB controller, now all faults are cleared and car is happy again
    The trick was just putting in the security code before trying to access basic settings in the ABS module...
    2011 Skoda Octavia vRS TDI DSG wagon|Revo Stage 1|Race Blue|Leather|Dynamic Xenons w 6000K|9w7 BT|THA475 Amp+active sub|Whiteline ALK|RVC|
    2009 R36 wagon|Biscay Blue|RVC|Tailgate|ECU and DSG tune|LED DRL/Indicators|3D colour cluster|Quad LED tail rings|Climatronics upgrade|Dynaudio retrofit|B7 RLine Flat Steering Wheel|3AA CCM|TPMS Direct|B7 Adaptive Cruise with Front Assist|Discover Media retrofit|PLA 2.0|Lane Assist|BCM retrofit|High Beam Assist|DQ500

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    I got same faults and cant access basic setting what was the security code you used?

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