Thanks Umai appreciate the feed back will check this arvo as on hols, if i can call this a hol, the injectors were replaced in 2013 on this car in 2013 under VW recall, but will take ur advice on board and check for resistance on injectors, didn't think other codes would be the start issue but happy to learn,as running out of things to check haha, some info on net saying steering locks on B6 were issue and would not allow start thru immobiliser any thoughts on that or lets go one step at a time, as i said im from era of fuel compression and off we go. Thnx again cheers Ron.