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    Quote Originally Posted by Merrick View Post
    But you didn’t say for how long that poo was on the paint, hours, days, weeks?
    I'd say two days as i made the mistake of parking outside the garage while in Melbourne.

    It's safe to say when i sprayed on the liquid i waited about 10/20 seconds on a COLD SURFACE i do stress never spray waxes, polishes etc on a hot surface it will cause heart ache!

    and gently moved the poop right off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blake_jl View Post
    Exactly.

    The product is not saying it is scratch proof by any means. But it provides a measurement which can be compared to other coatings to show that it exceeds these other coatings.
    Opti-Coat (Opti-Guard) is a hard wearing, aftermarket, ceramic clear coat for superior resistance to scratching (9H) - regarding to Opti-Coat Australia website, but this is what I don’t understand if the Opti-Coat is so hard why just an ordinary bush branch can scratch it?
    The window glass is about 5.5 and if we do the same ‘bush branch’ test on it, you won’t find any scratches at all. I am sorry but this doesn’t make a sense to me.
    To whom are interested to find out more about Mohs scale of mineral hardness visit Wikipedia website Mohs scale of mineral hardness - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Regarding to Opti-Coat website Lifetime guarantee for new vehicles treated within 12 months of first registration date. 5 years used vehicles.
    What is the difference between the paint up to 12 months after registration and the paint 13 months after registration?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blake_jl View Post
    Why does my wife's diamond ring scratch? Diamonds are the hardest material known to man.
    Exactly why it scratches? Perhaps your wife's diamond ring is not diamond at all, maybe cubic zirconia.

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    Merrick

    1. There is a differentiation between new and used vehicles for a very good reason. Used vehicles have spent however long being neglected prior to being coated. This may have produced defects in the factory paint system and potential for failure in later years. 12 months was selected as the cut off date for this.

    2. In Hails case it was only a couple of days but this has been tested over a period of up to 6 weeks. At this point the bird droppings have broken down and disappeared from the paintwork with no etching of the coating.

    3. You clearly don't understand how scratch resistance is measured. The material Opti-Coat formula is based on is called carborundum. It is used in ceramic disc brakes, bullet proof vests and actually measures greater than 9 on Mohs scale. On scratch resistance testing cured Opti-Coat measures 9H.

    It is good that you added the insult about my wife to your pointless comments.

    Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blake_jl View Post

    It is good that you added the insult about my wife to your pointless comments.
    I did not insult your wife at all, you come up with the diamond ring and I just replied to your comment. As you know the diamond can be scratched by diamond only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blake_jl View Post

    1. There is a differentiation between new and used vehicles for a very good reason. Used vehicles have spent however long being neglected prior to being coated. This may have produced defects in the factory paint system and potential for failure in later years. 12 months was selected as the cut off date for this.
    I don’t understand your explanation; I would like to know more about potential failure of the factory paint treated with Opti-coat in later years. What can happen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blake_jl View Post

    3. You clearly don't understand how scratch resistance is measured.
    Believe or not but I actually do understand. How the scratch resistance is measured is not important for a customer, but if you are saying that the coating is so hard (9-9.5) on the Mohs scale the customer may think, hmm... this paint protection is good my car won’t get scratched. Unfortunately as you know this is not the case, isn’t it?
    I also understand that the hard mineral (or any material) can scratch the softer mineral (or any material) but not vice versa.

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    We said it measures 9H on the scratch test. You should know what this is but you don't. You keep going back to Moh's scale of hardness. Carborundum does measure over 9 on Moh's scale which forms the backbone of this product.

    Quote Originally Posted by Merrick View Post
    I am still looking for this ‘Holy Grail’ of paint protection.
    This says a lot about the product you are peddling. Best of luck with your business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blake_jl View Post
    We said it measures 9H on the scratch test. You should know what this is but you don't. You keep going back to Moh's scale of hardness. Carborundum does measure over 9 on Moh's scale which forms the backbone of this product.



    This says a lot about the product you are peddling. Best of luck with your business.
    Perhaps you can educate me what 9H is. Are you refering to pencil hardness scratch test?
    Last edited by Merrick; 11-10-2011 at 12:59 PM.

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