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Thread: What to clean Ventureshield with?

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    Excuse my ignorance but I thought that polishes were abrasive and therefore no good to use on new cars?

    And why would carnauba wax be bad for the film?

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    Duragloss 105 is a chemical polish, not an abrasive polish so is fine. Abrasives are used on every new car by the dealerships (often with BAD results)

    Carnauba wax wouldn't be bad for the film, but the synthetic would do a better job as it would last longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrk_Mickey View Post
    For me personally, I would get it protected as soon as I get it so I don't have to do any polishing. If you seal the ''paintwork'' (that being the ventureshield) with a strong durable sealant such as Duragloss 601 + Duragloss 105, you'll get 6 months of protection from the elements and the environment so you only need to use normal car wash once a week or two. I'd say do it again in 4 or 5 months and you should be fine!
    I've ordered a new Golf R (due Nov-Dec) and I am looking to give the paint the best start in life that I can. To this end, after researching here on VWWC I was considering VentureShield and/or a synthetic paint sealant (I'm both time poor and water conscious, so would prefer to go for longer lasting options) and you've answered my questions as to if they can work together, and which comes first. So thanks!

    Quote Originally Posted by DMS_Dan View Post
    Duragloss 105 is a chemical polish, not an abrasive polish so is fine. Abrasives are used on every new car by the dealerships (often with BAD results)
    I've heard from other detailers that new car delivery detailing by a dealership can be bad for the paint, and that I should see if the dealer will let me use my own detailer (either on site at the dealer or take the car to be detailed).

    What would the experts here recommend? Obviously the car would need to be cleaned of the transport protection prior to VentureShield being installed, then have the Duragloss applied after the VentureShield, so it would involve a lot of juggling if the VentureShield installer didn't do the Duragloss part...

    Can anyone recommend a detailer and/or VentureShield supplier/fitter in the A.C.T. (unless DMS_Dan is doing one of his Canberra road trips when my car is delivered...)

    Thanks!

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    Forget the synthetic paint sealant - waste of money. Just stick to the ventureshield product and use Meguires Plast-X and Vueplus.

    You can find your local Ventureshield installer here: Invisible Patterns

    But I'd recommend Surfacetech at Artarmon. Expensive but very good workmanship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by triode12 View Post
    Forget the synthetic paint sealant - waste of money.
    Sorry dude, don't agree at all.

    For one, he's already using the duragloss paint protection, so he doesn't need to buy more.

    Second, the paint protection is straight up 6 months protection - so covering ventureshield in it twice a year will mean he could keep the bottles for like 10 gazillion years before needing to buy again.

    Thirdly, those sprayers don't offer as much protection, and still cost at least half of what the duragloss is worth - while you'll need to buy again much sooner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrk_Mickey View Post
    Sorry dude, don't agree at all.

    For one, he's already using the duragloss paint protection, so he doesn't need to buy more.

    Second, the paint protection is straight up 6 months protection - so covering ventureshield in it twice a year will mean he could keep the bottles for like 10 gazillion years before needing to buy again.

    Thirdly, those sprayers don't offer as much protection, and still cost at least half of what the duragloss is worth - while you'll need to buy again much sooner.
    I was referring to just having the paint sealant only (those being sold by the dealers) w/o Ventureshield installed - and paying $2K for it.
    Sorry should have been more specific.


    I wash my car regularly so putting on PlastX and Vueplex is par the course of cleaning the car. YMMV. But I will check out the Duragloss stuff. Thanks.
    Last edited by triode12; 09-07-2010 at 08:12 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by triode12 View Post
    I was referring to just having the paint sealant only (those being sold by the dealers) w/o Ventureshield installed - and paying $2K for it.
    Sorry should have been more specific.


    I wash my car regularly so putting on PlastX and Vueplex is par the course of cleaning the car. YMMV. But I will check out the Duragloss stuff. Thanks.
    Ohhh, sorry mate, I didn't realise haha.

    Yeah I agree. Paint protection from the dealers is the same concept as a $300ish detail - and my detail covers more!
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    Thank you all for your advice. It appears there are no VentureShield installers in the ACT, maybe I'll have to do a (very careful!) road trip after I get the car.

    As far as the synthetic paint sealant goes, I was not planning on using the dealer-offered service, but going to a detailer and getting Mrk_Mickey's suggestion of "seal the ''paintwork'' (that being the ventureshield) with a strong durable sealant such as Duragloss 601 + Duragloss 105".

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    Quote Originally Posted by simonm View Post
    Thank you all for your advice. It appears there are no VentureShield installers in the ACT, maybe I'll have to do a (very careful!) road trip after I get the car.

    As far as the synthetic paint sealant goes, I was not planning on using the dealer-offered service, but going to a detailer and getting Mrk_Mickey's suggestion of "seal the ''paintwork'' (that being the ventureshield) with a strong durable sealant such as Duragloss 601 + Duragloss 105".
    Simon - are you doing the whole car or just the basic kit?
    If you plan to do the whole car, remember that they'll need the car for four days. So you will have to factor in accomodation costs if you are planning on staying the four days or cost of travel to and from ACT. The quote I got the last time to cover the whole car with ventureshield was $4000.
    Last edited by triode12; 09-07-2010 at 08:11 PM.

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    Wow I didn't know they covered the whole car. That's pretty intense. How long do they say it lasts?
    Mrk Detailing, premium automotive detailing. Paint correction/protection specialist. PM me

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