Ceramic Pro (Superior Shine) VS Opti-coat (Reflect effect)

**raybow13** · 22-03-2013, 03:47 PM

Hi all,
As some of you may have noticed, i am quite bew to the VW scene, and i am about to pick up my new United Grey Golf R next week.

I was hoping to get some opinions in regards to getting paint protection either from Dave at reflect effect at $645/$725 dunno if the R is classified as a small or medium car. Or by Scott at Superior Shine at $490 for a medium car. (Prices from their websites)

If people have recently been to either recently and can give me an insight to whether prices are negotiable or not?
As both seem to have positive reviews.
Is there much difference with the opticoat vs ceramic pro products? Or whether one is better for the united grey paint?

Thanks i advance
Ray

**VWindahouse** · 22-03-2013, 05:20 PM

Hi Ray, also google Permagard to add to your research. It is exactly the same formula they coat the commercial airplanes with such as Virgin & Qantas etc for it's protective and regenerative properties as well as saving the airline millions in fuel per year also. There really is nothing as good on the market but the trouble is tracking down places that offer it as it's extremely controlled and they have just signed a deal with Porsche Australia.

**Dutch77** · 22-03-2013, 08:42 PM

I had a paint correction and Opticoat done about six weeks ago including wheels and a window treatment for around $500; pretty happy with the outcome. The paint is definitely holding a deeper red shine and is more resistant to marking. The water beading is beautiful too, I think the detailing nuts on here like to call it bead porn.

My old man had his Liberty GT wagon done with Opticoat last week for around $400.

However these are prices in suburban Adelaide with a low overheads business, so I'd expect the prices to be higher elsewhere. Hopefully that's a reasonable guide though..

**cktsi** · 22-03-2013, 09:13 PM

Opticoat seems to be getting great reviews on the BMW forums. Dave did my 328i and i do find the car easier to wash.

However, think twice about getting him to do the window tint as well. I am not too happy with the tint and my wood trims were nicked as the door trims had to be removed. If you get the wrong tint, you risk damage to the rear window heater element if you want to redo it. It is worth paying extra to get a tint specialist do the tinting.

**levendi001** · 22-03-2013, 09:38 PM

Dutch 77 what Detailer did u use? Thanks stage 1 2 or 3 correction?

**Dutch77** · 22-03-2013, 10:11 PM

Originally Posted by levendi001

Dutch 77 what Detailer did u use? Thanks stage 1 2 or 3 correction?

Elite Finish @ Somerton Park, Hamish is the contact.

He actually has a lot of his work up on his website which is worth a look. I guess I would describe it as a mild stage 1.. mine's a daily driver and as hard as I try it cops a few marks here and there so I was keen to reduce some of those and get some of the swirl out. I suspect it would have come up cleaner had I done it a few years ago!

**levendi001** · 23-03-2013, 10:00 AM

Thanks will look into

**AdamD** · 23-03-2013, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by Dutch77

Elite Finish @ Somerton Park, Hamish is the contact.

He actually has a lot of his work up on his website which is worth a look. I guess I would describe it as a mild stage 1.. mine's a daily driver and as hard as I try it cops a few marks here and there so I was keen to reduce some of those and get some of the swirl out. I suspect it would have come up cleaner had I done it a few years ago!

I had a stage 1 done by Hamish on my TR GTI as well. He did a great job and I'd recommend him.

**nickows** · 24-03-2013, 06:44 PM

I have Ceramic Pro on my car. Had to get it re-applied to a small section because part of the car was not decontaminated properly.

Very happy with the product. Dirt and grime/bug guts are removed easily, and the paint feels glassy smooth after a wash. Water beads off the car exceptionally well.

**raybow13** · 25-03-2013, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by nickows

I have Ceramic Pro on my car. Had to get it re-applied to a small section because part of the car was not decontaminated properly.

Very happy with the product. Dirt and grime/bug guts are removed easily, and the paint feels glassy smooth after a wash. Water beads off the car exceptionally well.

Hi Nickows,
I just want to ask who applied the ceramic pro for you? And how much did you pay?

How long have you had it applied for on your car? And how often do you maintain the car/wash etc??