CC Drivers!!

[Highlander]

Majority won't be getting a Corp Plus discount. MOST new R36 sales will be around $70k on road.

With a little bit of research, I think it would be pretty hard to find someone who would not be entitled to a corporate discount.

[marckhor]

Anyone knows when the Passat CC R version is being released here. Will they be sold with 5 seats?

[Hooligan]

Maybe go to a ford forum and brag about it there. LOL

[Leagle]

Lol, we should rename this thread CC vs Ford G6ET! I think I started it!

Its actually very interesting that many people who have bought CC (or R36) have considered the Ford Falcon G6ET. I think that this cross-shopping/comparing these cars flatters both marques (Ford and VW). They are both producing some fine cars.

However, given I have just caught up with this thread, I thought I would add a further two cents worth:

1. Its surprising how similar (dimension wise, even some styling cues!) these cars actually are when compared side by side in the flesh!

2. To the comments that suggest that the VW (V6 CC) is double the money over a Ford G6ET, that is not quite true. The official RRP of both cars are actually very similar. A "base" (optionless) V6 CC can be had for under $70K on road (maybe even mid 60s). Conversely a new G6ET costs around the same ($65k). Having said that, at the end of the day, I was more than happy to pay almost $25K more for my (nearly) fully optioned - and newly minted - CC (mid $70s) compared to a low mileage but very tired looking "demo" G6ET(sub $50K) that I was looking at.

3. There is no doubt that despite the fact that Ford has gone a long way with quality and refinement, it still doesn't compare to the VW product. I reckon if Ford did two simple things to the G6ET (fit quality seats that still looked new after a few 1000 kays AND had a dash which was able to be fully illuminated during the day) I may have actually bought the Ford. Its these small things that the bean counters don't realise matter to us prestige segment buyers!

[Highlander]

I have to say that my CC TDI is boring. It seems to cover long distances and you don't even feel like you have driven anywhere. I don't get to stop at service stations very often any more so I miss out on chocolate. After a few thousand kilometres it has become a car I don't even think about. I miss out on road noise and what little there is seems to be muffled by what I consider a good quality standard sound system (I'm no audiophile).

With adaptive cruise control, the thing has a mind of its own ands takes me up the motorway to Sydney in an alien controlled capsule, accelerating and braking when it gets the messages from its electronic masters.

After a good detail with a Saturday morning class and products from Car Care Products even the joy of car washing is diluted as the thing tends to be so slippery and easy to wash.

It also has the ability to morph itself into a Golf if I don't sometimes get to the garage before my daughter, who apparently doesn't find the CC anywhere near as boring as I do. (with some lame excuse like "I was late for work and couldn't find my keys")

And no thrills or adrenalin rush from squeezing into a tight parking spot either. This boring CC is even parked by the electronic aliens

Many years ago, I read articles about the "Character" of European cars, especially when I was heavily into Fiats. 1960s Minis had character. In all character equated to quirkiness and was what you used to justify your purchase of a car with its "inherent characteristics - Fiats would rust in a fog.

I pray that my CC doesn't develop "Character"

If you are brutally honest with yourself, there are precious few places where you can legally and safely "use" your car these days, other than a comfortable, safe and convenient means of getting you from A to B. Public roads are not places to play - although I do recall on this forum how an R36 owner has "justified" his liking for drifting around roundabouts.

If you want to play games with your car there are places to do it but that's not public roads.

The above rant influenced my choice of the TDI over the V6 and I stll look longingly at CCs with the fan wheels instead of the slow 5 spoke wheels.

Overall, I hope this car just stays this boring. I don't want to be excited by VW Service or lack thereof, or by a DSG transmission which I love but of whose long term reliability I am yet to be totally convinced.

There's is one little disappointment. Occasionally, and only occasionally, when I so much as think of taking control from the electronic aliens, they send blinding lights into the cabin via the brushed aluminium on the dashboard. Better than my VZ Holden ute though. You can't even see the instrument cluster at midday.

[team_v]

Anyone knows when the Passat CC R version is being released here. Will they be sold with 5 seats?

Won't be sold here.
Europe, North America and NZ get it but we don't.

I believe there was an optional rear seat upgrade to 5 seats in EU but don't know if it made it out here.

[tessie]

To Highlander (My CC is boring)....I almost felt like we were linked telepathically, thats just like something I'd write. Yeah I really appreciate my CC too, and our DSG's won't give us a minutes grief...I hope. Would'nt matter anyway would it?, is'nt that just character?

[Highlander]

To Highlander (My CC is boring)....I almost felt like we were linked telepathically, thats just like something I'd write. Yeah I really appreciate my CC too, and our DSG's won't give us a minutes grief...I hope. Would'nt matter anyway would it?, is'nt that just character?

Thought of something else boring about this car. I see Golf drivers waving at each other and flashing lights, GTIs especially, R36 wagons even have a specialspotting thread but in 6 months of ownership i have only seen less than 10 CCs on the road (one of them is the V6 I cancelled) so we don't even get much to wave to or flash our lights at.

[Leagle]

Hey Highlander (my CC was boring), you know what I have the V6 Passat CC and (gasp) a lot of your comments STILL apply to my car! The lack of road noise, the self service gadgets (even though I don't have adaptive cruise, it still seems to do everything for me automatically), the way all trips seem super short, yep it seems to be a tad boring.

Then I tap the DSG of my V6 CC into Sports mode, put my foot down, and it growls with excitement. Problem is: its too quick and you don't feel it. The speed signs say 50, and it only takes 2 seconds to get there!

The more I think about it, I reckon the diesel was a sensible choice Highlander. But for the 1% of the time that you can actually exploit some of the V6's performance....

[gerhard]

It's quite amusing in a sense - Ford's downward spiral started with the AU and its radical (ugly) styling. The current cars still have the same basic shape and the low sales seem to indicate people still haven't forgiven Ford for this visual disaster. Ford tried to make amends by improving the car's dynamics to the extent that everyone agrees the Falcon is mostly much better than the Commodore, but sales are still poor.

Back to what's amusing - Merc made a car that looked identical to the AU (or did Ford copy the Merc? doesn't really matter), and now the CC is basically the same shape as well. To my eye the Merc was equally fugly with the AU, but the CC takes the same lines and the result is pure classy looks.

Her ladyship & I looked at the CC when it seemed the GTI was going to God (hail), and she said something like "you would look 'right' driving this car - it suits your age group more than the GTI ...........