VW Tuners in Sydney

[Lucas_R]

There is so much more to a tuner and a tune than a 1/4 mile time or a power number

Exactly - backup service / support etc is also important. Several also offer warranty which is nice, but id like to see the result if that warranty was ever challenged.

[Candyman]

Exactly - backup service / support etc is also important. Several also offer warranty which is nice, but id like to see the result if that warranty was ever challenged.

True, hopefully those with those tunes that carry a warranty never have to test the water.

[Ideo]

True, hopefully those with those tunes that carry a warranty never have top test the water.

Yep.

I think that is something that all of us with tunes are hopefull of.

[Bug_racer]

That's what I thought the reason would be.

Which kind of proves my point. Different products work for different people.

And some products produce great numbers but are $hit to drive in traffic !
Hence why I prefer custom tunes over off the shelf ones .

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There was one "downloadable" tune that performed pretty well compared to some the Recode cars at the recent dyno day. Considering the Recode cars all had more mods (HPFP + intercooler + Fuel pressure valve + custom tuning) it was a surprising result.

More so is that the "downloadable" tune was only a stage 1 and the car only has a down pipe and intake.

Although there were about 5x Recode tuned cars there on the day, i distinctly remember 2x Recode tuned cars in particular. One was essentially the same kw/nm as my car, the other was less.

Courtneys car wasnt there which would give bigger numbers .
Its not just about what tune you have or what parts are bolted on . Its also about how the parts were put on and which units were used . Sorting out a good combination that makes good power is really essentially what any tuner hopes for . Dyno numbers dont interest me much , its more the whole power curve based upon increases compared to what it was stock and seeing how much faster / quicker it is down the 1/4 .

[Candyman]

After driving three separate R's with Viezu tunes, all were incredibly smooth in traffic.

Passenger in a bluefin tuned R, also very smooth.

Don't know about the other tunes

My last Subie was custom tuned and was ****e in traffic

Generalizing is usually pointless

[Bug_racer]

After driving three separate R's with Viezu tunes, all were incredibly smooth in traffic.

Passenger in a bluefin tuned R, also very smooth.

Don't know about the other tunes

My last Subie was custom tuned and was ****e in traffic

Generalizing is usually pointless

WTF , dont compare Jap cars to Euro , different ball game . May as well start comparing Carbys to efi while we are at it !

Viezu is smooth and so is Bluefin , ok thats all good and well . Viezu has a motorsport tune , how does this fare with the right bolt ons on the dragstrip compared to other tunes ?

[Candyman]

I'm not comparing Japanese to anything

I was showing that generalizing is pointless

ie, your comment that off the shelf tunes are rubbish compared to custom tunes in driveabity

[Ideo]

And some products produce great numbers but are $hit to drive in traffic !
Hence why I prefer custom tunes over off the shelf ones .

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Courtneys car wasnt there which would give bigger numbers .
Its not just about what tune you have or what parts are bolted on . Its also about how the parts were put on and which units were used . Sorting out a good combination that makes good power is really essentially what any tuner hopes for . Dyno numbers dont interest me much , its more the whole power curve based upon increases compared to what it was stock and seeing how much faster / quicker it is down the 1/4 .

Good for you.

So what you are saying is that when I take mine down the quarter mile, you'll judge the tune as less successful because I
a) am driving a manual
b) have never done any time on the strip?

I think I'll be at least a second off most DSG times. Nearly all of that will be down to my own lack of skill at launching.

At least with dyno figures you don't have that margin of error.

[Lucas_R]

Courtneys car wasnt there which would give bigger numbers .
Its not just about what tune you have or what parts are bolted on . Its also about how the parts were put on and which units were used . Sorting out a good combination that makes good power is really essentially what any tuner hopes for . Dyno numbers dont interest me much , its more the whole power curve based upon increases compared to what it was stock and seeing how much faster / quicker it is down the 1/4 .

I would sure hope your car would put out better figures than mine considering your additional modifications / money spent / time spent / and custom tune.

All parts on my car were installed by me, i dont trust anyone with my car except me.

Quarter mile times have never really interested me, and the closest drag strip is Eastern Creek which is nearly 3 hours away - too far for me to be interested.

[DNA Tuning]

I don't recall having ever driven any modern tuned VAG, be it off the shelf tune or custom tuned that drove unsmoothly/poorly in traffic. There would have to be something seriously intentionally wrong in the tune to cause that.

Custom tunes *can* have an advantage over off the shelf tunes; but let's put it this way - this then requires the tuner to be very skilled in tuning and to have custom tuned dozens of the same vehicle, to achieve the best balance of performance, whether:

* On the dyno
* At the dragstrip
* Launching from a standstill
* On a circuit over longer stints on a trackday
* In cold weather
* In hot weather
* In humid conditions
* At high/low elevations

If I were to take an R for the very first time and try and custom tune it myself (ie. not use DNA's tunes); I would be able to get it to run well in a few of the above conditions, but because I cannot simulate all the above conditions and don't have hundreds of other R's I have custom tuned to get feedback from, the end result, overall, would not be as good as that as of an off the shelf tune from APR/DNA/GIAC, etc. from which hundreds of cars were used as research/development into refining their tunes.

It took me 35 revisions over 9 months of custom tuning for my B5 S4 to get it to run well in all of the above scenarios for instance; would a custom tuner really spend more than a day on your car?