APR Stage 2 on MKV GTI

[adzy]

I have searched and searched and still am unsatisfied with the facts about this mod. As far as I am aware the APR stage 2 tune requires a Carbonio intake and panel filter and at least a APR dump pipe section.
Is the Carbonio required so that the re-flash is accurate? as the re-flash would have been tuned and developed with the carbonio intake.
Has anyone got anything good to say about this upgrade as I have mainly heard that customers dont feel a difference? All I would be expecting is an extra 10 - 12 kw@wheels with this mod and hopefully a 13.7 - 13.9 quarter mile
Anyone with dyno sheets or who has facts about this mod without the BS opinions, please holler!
Cheers.

[Guy_H]

Stage 2 does not require an intake, but it is recommended. The official APR figures (Stage 2) are taken with Carbonio & full exhaust.

Generally we see ~ 7 - 9wkw when you upgrade from stage 1 to 2.

It will not cause much bother if you have the stock intake, you will be missing some horsepower.

Not sure how much 7 - 9kw @ the wheels will equate to your 1/4 mile time!

Dean at Volkspower recently did some dyno testing of stage 1 / 2 & with airbox on his MKVI DSG - he has them at his shop for viewing if you want to have a look! - similar results to the MKV.

[adzy]

Hmmmm 7 - 9

I am told that some guys have hit a high 13 with this mod, more BS storys maybe.

Cheers Guy, that clears things up.

[Guy_H]

I know the Volkspower car did 11 extra KW with a full exhaust, so downpipe will be less - and its always good to be conservative on the numbers - as you know, dyno figures vary a lot!

[adzy]

For anyone interested, I have found a full APR 3" system and once fitted I hope to have the car dyno'd (on the same dyno in the same mode) to compare power gains with my original dyno run... which was run with stage 1 tune only.

[Speed]

For anyone interested, I have found a full APR 3" system and once fitted I hope to have the car dyno'd (on the same dyno in the same mode) to compare power gains with my original dyno run... which was run with stage 1 tune only.

Adzy,
I'm keen to hear the results.
Just to be clear are you hitting the dyno with a stage 1 chip and 3inch system, or have you upgraded your chip?

[adzy]

When you fit an APR system they give you the stage 2 tune for free to encourage brand loyalty. The tune is more of a safety net rather than a performance increase though... the power gain is from the exhaust.

The APR stage 1 tune gave me 146.9 kw@ wheels... which supprised a few of the non APR guys I am just waiting till i get a CAI then will chuck her on the rollers

[Speed]

The best I done was a 13.81 @ 101.58 MPH to say I am happy is a major understatement!! I backed that run up with a 13.82 @ 103.81 MPH

Great result and nice and consistent!
Even better when you get to spank a GTS.

I'm guessing you'd get too much wheelspin off the line with normal pressure in the fronts?

[adzy]

Spanking the big Falcadores is so much fun

I dont bother running normal pressures at the drags anymore, as with previous cars, I found that you get far better traction when there is under 15psi. The Conti's soft sidewalls helped them hook up surprisingly well.

[adzy]

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