270hp in a mk3 is MORE then enough. The vr6 is a lively bastard as it is, with 100hp more it would be a real handful!!
270hp in a mk3 is MORE then enough. The vr6 is a lively bastard as it is, with 100hp more it would be a real handful!!
1996 Golf VR6 Colour Concept Green
i have to disagree with all you supercharger lovers.
VR6 is already way too slow off the mark. Youre just gonna make it worse. At least you can make a turbo car boost earlier. Only problem is the power delivery wont be as linear so u create a bit of a straight line warrior
Stuff it then. Lets rip out all the vr6 motors and chuck in 1.8t's?
1996 Golf VR6 Colour Concept Green
This is very true.
How many of you have actually seen the VR6 port's incl. the new 24v one.
There are bloody terrible & I can see why they say it's probably one of the worse cyl. head design's in history.
But as bad as they may be, you can still force the stuff in there & it will still work.
Didn't EIP Tuning have a bolt-on kit that produce over 400hp on the stock Corrado 2.9 VR6 in the very early day's?
Bildon motorsport are currently trying to squeeze 250hp + out of a 12v NA VR6. Im not sure how close they have gotten yet but they have some interesting pics of vr6 heads cut away and such
EIP are all but gone now. They were laughed off the face of the earth after messing around so many customers. See http://eipsucks.com/
They did have some nice looking stuff. But were blown away when C2 come to the market in the US.
It's funny how some of these mob's are trying to squeeze orange juice out of apple's!!!!
VW Motorsport were getting 280+hp out of there NA 2L 16V rally engine.
I did read alittle bit about what happened to EIP. Sad & very frustrating story about what they did to some of there customer's.
I just found my old copy of a 1997 European Car with the very early EIP Tuning VR6 turbo's.
2.9L engine. Compression lowered to 9.0:1 with a thick copper headgasket, 12 psi, different Fuel pressure reg., AutoThority tune, 378hp & 419lb-ft at the wheels.
with regard to the tension in the charger belt, there was a guy on Vortex how is very proud that he had the first cogged vr6 supercharger pulley.
by cogged i mean it has teeth. like those massive drag racing superchargers.
so his belt never slips. he reckons the usual vr6 supercharger, if its got the pulley on it to make, say 8 psi, it might only actually make around 6.5-7psi and not all the time and where its supposed to. but his will because it can not slip.
im pretty sure he had to engineer it himself, making appropriate pulleys for power steering, aircon, and of course the charger and whatever else runs off that belt.
im not debating that turbos can easily make alot more power. hands down they can. i think all i'd really want is around 250-270hp anyway. the reason i'd like a supercharger over a turbo is cos everyone and his brother with his fully sick skyline has a turbo. i reckon blowers are more old skool. and old skool is freakin cool
i've also heard that with turbo's you lose more of the VR grr, where as with the blower you still got it.
if only i had a money tree
-steve
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