Viezu or GIAC stage 2 tune

[kaanage]

I thought Simon told you that there wasn't much more he could do for your car, noone. I remember you giving him a complete list of the components you've installed.

[noone]

Correct, in my case they were not expecting any gains over the stage 1 APR. The Polo 1.8T tuning may not have the same tuning flexibility, but with the PD160, dump pipe, Forge intercooler and a few other supporting mods, it would be an interesting comparison.

I'm interested to hear about this tuning flexibility. In my mind tuning is a process that requires technical observation of ECU changes to make sure the car is functioning properly, as well as making good power. I'm interested to understand how a company can revise a tune without access to the car. I assume the local rep plays a role in monitoring and there is some assumption that the local team understand what to monitor.

Not taking sides, its something new to me. There are other nuances with some tunes like being adjustable by the client or having fuel maps, or valet modes.

[kaanage]

That's true. When we had the dyno day last year, Scotty ran the motorsport map while I ran the max road map on our basically identical TDi's and when we overlaid the runs, you could clearly see that my car developed a bit more power early on but tapered off more quickly than Scotty's (the difference wasn't huge so it was more a tweak than a totally different remap).

I presume they didn't do a tune that has both the extra bottom and top end as it would overly stress the engine/turbo.

APR and GIAC switching is MUCH faster than Viezu (or anyone else using an Alientech flash unit), though, since they switch to alternate map options that are all loaded into the ECU at once rather than having to load a complete map each time.

[Finance_Analyst]

APR for the win!!!!!!!

[SpeedGti]

Just contacted John (Melbourne dealer) its $990 but for Viezu golf mk 6 gti's cant switch between tunes using hte "V Switch" because its not compatible yet, but he said he can switch the tunes for me any time i wanted too free of charge. I didn't know it was a customise tune where we get to decide on what we want.

[lavna]

Hi I got 2 tunes performance and motosport pretty good for the one price

[gh172]

I'm currently bluefin stage 2+ on my MKV GTI . I feel it's pretty strong in 2nd, but not so much in 3rd and 4th.
I'm planning on adding the APR FMIC before Christmas and then changing tunes myself. I've narrowed my choice down to Viezu or the Shark Performance tune from the UK. Both seem to get really good results.

[Buller_Scott]

Hi I got 2 tunes performance and motosport pretty good for the one price

thats what i got on my tdi.

fuel economy in performance mode is significantly better than on stock map.

[ViezuAustralia]

Viezu is new to AUSTRALIA, yes... but they've been tuning cars for more than 20 years...

look up "chippedUK" - the name they used to sell their tunes under before calling themselves Viezu - jason, the owner of chippeduk, decided to devote his efforts and the chippeduk brand to race development in the various racing series in the UK, and as such they started Viezu to deal primarily with consumer car tuning. people might argue that they are different companies, but the two have the same address, same admin contact details, and use the same in house dyno to tune their cars and develop their maps, last i saw.

and yes, Viezu has switchable maps via the "v-switch" - stock, plus two other maps.

Hi guys

I'll keep it brief until later when I have a bit of time to read this thread properly ...

But the short answer to this is on the R forum somewhere, or our own sponsor section.

Viezu were set up by the new various Directors over 5 years ago with massive business plans and everything that goes with setting up a brand that will become global in a short space of time. in 3 years of going 'live' they are a truly global phenomenon.

The Directors of Viezu approached Jason, who is the new Technical Director in charge of Viezu Special Projects (high level motorsport and manufacturer R&D type stuff) and Viezu's Training Academy.

Jason was the owner of ChippedUK who used to predominantly do race tuning for various teams and R&D.

Viezu bought ChippedUK after Viezu went live, and yes took with it Jason, and the premises. They have upgraded the facilities and dyno / all sorts since to a state of the art scientific facility which is Euro 5 emissions certified and environmentally controlled, 3000hp 4x4 state of the art stuff along with a massive launch and entirely new business. However they're just upgrading it again - the 'best money could buy' clearly wasn't good enough !

So in short - they are not the same - nothing like, in fact Viezu is a whole new company, but yes, they bought out all the best bits of ChippedUK. ChippedUK is no more.

Jason (and all the Tech centre guys actually!) is an utter genius and understands race gains like no other, however their latest offerings mean along with their custom written mapping for your car, which is fully insured, is the Blue Optimize program. Take an F458, give it 40hp and reduce emission by 40%. Or an Aston V8 Vantage - by 50%. Or more fitting on here - take a Golf 'R', give it 30hp and 85Nm, and cut emissions by 50%. We can do this on all vehicles, petrol or diesel and you can imagine Governments and manufacturers around the world are taking more than a keen interest.

That's only one level of mapping. It's best economy mapping with reduced emissions stuff, yet can be blended with performance according to your requirements, as with all our mapping as it's custom written for you. Viezu have always done economy mapping, but this is quite different and unique around the globe.

Performance mapping on the MED17 Golf (VI) GTi will see 40hp and 85Nm across the revs. In fact we'll have this engine on a local dyno in about 2 weeks so we'll get some local data for you.

Motorsport mapping on the mark 6 GTi is under gen2 R&D but isn't far off. In light of our recent 2nd generation Golf 'R' mapping, they're doing further R&D on the GTi.

The Mark 5 GTi would see 70hp and 100nm - fully insured, no mods, no small print, regular fuel. In fact they can go harder than that for true race team mapping. 100hp is do-able, but you can't control the temps.

The Mark 6 GTi is in for a treat, just like our 'R' customers which now has a reduced output (from our original R mapping of 70hp/100nm) to 52hp but 110Nm right across the rev range. Numbers on the dyno only tell half the story. Our mapping alone sees 4.7s 0-100 and low 13's just off the map [EDIT - 12.8s for the 1/4mile on the new mapping! That's astonishing!] . A CAI takes another tenth and a dump pipe takes them to 4.1s.

Our mapping includes a free DSG-light-tune which other tuners don't offer - in fact there are threads on here suggesting they say it's not even possible. It is, and we do it. We include it for free just like we include 'flash to stock for service for free' and free upgrades for life of ownership, and free light mod upgrades (big mods like a bigger turbo is a new map) but exhaust, intake, dump pipe etc is just - free custom written further mod map - nothing off the shelf or bought in - no 'stage' mapping you have to stick to. You buy a mod - our Tech centre writes it in perfectly, which ever level of mapping you require, for whatever the mod is. No more 'hoping' the CEL stays out.

All of the tunes are covered by insurance direct from the worldwide HQ, as with all the 350+ Dealers across the 34 countries Viezu are now in.

So a truly global, internationally awarded tuning brand is here now - and yes we recently launched. We also recently launched in Melbourne and very soon will be in Brisbane, with many more lined up for Xmas/New Year.

The Golf 6 GTi throws all sorts of pains with the mobile tuning device and so we don't offer it for any of the MED17 ECU's. In other words, remote tuning devices can be hit and miss (they often don't work with them) with these ECU's and we don't want clients having anything other than an absolute top line service experience with us or one of our Approved Dealers.

Happy to answer any queries directly so fire away or email me personally - simon@viezuaustralia.com.au

And check out these - I love these vids (and more on our FB page if you 'like' us) - hope you guys approve:




And - So much more than 'just' economy mapping



Cheers

Simon

Director
Viezu Australia

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That was his super introductory special back in April when he just started and it was limited to VDubClub members. I'm not surprised it's gone up since then but it's still very aggressive pricing.

Hi Kaanage ! Not spoken to you for ages!

Yes everyone on here - the website is undergoing fairly major modification so no prices on there yet.

We originally launched here as 'eTech Remapping' which was a small Viezu Authorised Dealer set up. After vast amounts of research and planning, and investment we decided to secure the rights Viezu products and Services across Australia. No one else brings anything in for Viezu, nor can they do so. We are Viezu here and are responsible for everything save for the Technical Centre which supports all of the 34 countries the Viezu are now in.

Viezu offer extremely aggressive pricing and so did we - and, because we were so small, had no overheads, did no advertising, didn't have to launch the brand, didn't have to launch a dealer network, didn't have to pay import duty, taxes, GST, distribution costs, other national scale sized business costs etc etc etc we were selling them essentially at cost, at that time to test the market. We now, however, have to do all of those things so as much as we will keep things as low as possible they have increased to a more suitable level and as with other tuners, are car dependent due to various changes made out of our control.

But yes - whilst we still aim to be at least on par, if not cheaper than the 'competition' (and use that loosely, given we are so unique in our custom written, fully insured and guaranteed tuning and our clients tell us - faster - with more tuning options etc etc etc - read the last post...) we do have to now make some level of 'profit' if only to put straight back into the branding and business expansion and overheads like any business. To put it into perspective we are about to take full page adverts in 3 major magazines with more to come. You can imagine how expensive it is launching a brand and an dealer network and as much as we offer price matching - it has to be apples for apples - I can't find any other tuners which offers free light-DSG-tuning, international and local Tech support 24/7, fully insured tuning files, custom written mapping, guaranteed written in-house (no bought in files rubbish), extendable money back guarantees, and the smoothest of smooth, quick, quality, safe mapping for such a broad market coverage - yet still at similar or cheaper prices.

The business planning works on the current prices and yet we can still offer excellent value for money. Our prices start at $499 plus GST and go to thousands but many many factors affect prices, just like in any business - large or small.

The Mark (6) Golf GTi and Golf 'R' are currently available at $999 plus GST.

The V-Switch units will only be available where we don't have Dealer coverage as we find whilst they can work well, they are a basic read write tool, sometimes need software updating and too-ing and fro-ing so are not the real 'Viezu' experience we stand for with our Dealers - and will be phased out as more VAG cars have MED17 type ecu's in any event. We are working on another remote tuner device solution for that purpose in fact, but that will be next year...

[ViezuAustralia]

That's true. When we had the dyno day last year, Scotty ran the motorsport map while I ran the max road map on our basically identical TDi's and when we overlaid the runs, you could clearly see that my car developed a bit more power early on but tapered off more quickly than Scotty's (the difference wasn't huge so it was more a tweak than a totally different remap).

I presume they didn't do a tune that has both the extra bottom and top end as it would overly stress the engine/turbo.

Single turbo motors, especially if not VVT can lose slightly lower down if you want a motorsport map - on the basis motorsport mapping will be hammering around top end. The best balance on something like that polo is the performance map for day to day, with a quick top end but it's more about the low/mid torque with increased drivability, economy and refinement.

However that's not the case at all on the newer TDi or VAG petrol motors - the motorsport mapping eliminates lag even more than performance, makes it ballistic across the rev range and gives it an angry screaming top end on say the Golf (5) GTi, whereas the new 'R', even on the motorsport mapping is instant ridiculous shove from low rpm right across the rpm range as you'd expect with 110Nm extra. The R is even smoother than stock too and doesn't lose economy even on the motorsport map. Performance maps will see better than stock economy though.

To answer Noone - our team(s) at the International R&D and Technical Centre are massively experienced at mods and coding for them. They use a mix of masses of experience, virtual software coding techniques and, if it's a potentially complex remote tune custom map like new big injectors in an engine they haven't seen those injectors in before they will need logging and/or dyno runs this end to prepare your perfect map file. This is very rare though - it's bang on, every time in our experience.