Tuning software

**Lonewolf1983** · 26-05-2010, 02:00 AM

I've done some research everywhere I can think, but clutching at straws means im posting here.
Car is a Bora v6 4motion.

I'm wondering if anywhere in the world you can buy software to tune the factory ECU. This functionality is available for other cars (e.g. Flashtune/LS1edit/Nistune etc).
I dont want a generic chip or flash tune, I want something that my tuner can run on the dyno and play with rev limits, fuel + ignition, VVT mapping etc.

I know such software exists as tuners overseas can do custom tunes, but no-one I know if in Australia, let alone Perth.

Cost isnt really a huge concern, as the alternative is a standalone which is likely to cost me in the region of $5k, and may not play nicely with the rest of the cars systems.

Anyone know of any options?

**parso_rex** · 31-05-2010, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by Lonewolf1983

I've done some research everywhere I can think, but clutching at straws means im posting here.
Car is a Bora v6 4motion.

I'm wondering if anywhere in the world you can buy software to tune the factory ECU. This functionality is available for other cars (e.g. Flashtune/LS1edit/Nistune etc).
I dont want a generic chip or flash tune, I want something that my tuner can run on the dyno and play with rev limits, fuel + ignition, VVT mapping etc.

I know such software exists as tuners overseas can do custom tunes, but no-one I know if in Australia, let alone Perth.

Cost isnt really a huge concern, as the alternative is a standalone which is likely to cost me in the region of $5k, and may not play nicely with the rest of the cars systems.

Anyone know of any options?

I know what you need but its going to cost you several times the cost of your standalone and then theres the hardware to talk to the ECU oh and learning how to use it. Its very different to most other ECU's logic. These are strictly commercial packages so you are a bit out of luck We have it here ourselves though as does one place in SA. If you were in Sydney it wouldn't be a problem of course. Google Frieling racing, winols and Dimensione sport.
What year is the car ?

Cheers

Mark

**Lonewolf1983** · 01-06-2010, 07:51 PM

2002, so ODBII I believe.
And yeah, I realise what im asking and that its likely that its only worthwhile purchasing for a workshop looking to tune a lot of cars to recoup the costs.

Rather annoying considering that Honda/Nissan/subaru/mitsubishi are all tunable (with the right software), and its not that expensive.
Standalone is looking the best option, then piggybacking it onto the std ECU, leaving it to contol the dash/haldex etc.

**parso_rex** · 01-06-2010, 10:04 PM

It all depends on what your planning on doing too, standalones are pretty good in that they let you tune the car in real time which in a weird way can save you quite a lot time=$$, you can also sell it at a later date too. The gains won't be huge in an NA setup. Rev limit will be interesting
I just had a look at the BoraV6 Bosch ME7.1 stuff and there are no VVT tables to be modified. Everything else is there however

**Lonewolf1983** · 01-06-2010, 11:11 PM

a lot of the money involved is with getting it wired in and tuned, and yeah I guess you can always pull it back out if need be.
Dont expect big gains n/a (maybe a little if I went for a set of cams), interesting that you cant tune the VVT tables, I think there would be some gains there especially with a set of aftermarket cams.

I'd only be going down this path as an interim step prior to going forced induction. Get the ECU sorted before throwing in the extra complications.

**parso_rex** · 01-06-2010, 11:41 PM

Yeah there would be the gains with cams no question. Definitely go aftermarket if your going down the FI path you'll need it for boost control and the extra outputs and inputs always come in handy and you can choose injector impedance so theres more choice + its easily tuned.
Sounds like fun anyway

**Lonewolf1983** · 11-06-2010, 01:24 AM

submitted a query to my local Vipec dealer to see what my options are with regards to standalone.
Its pretty much the only decent ECU that can control VVT/variable intake/ DBW throttle etc.
Not going to be cheap, or get huge gains straight up (some would be nice!), but I see it as a building block to going forced induction...

**Lonewolf1983** · 16-06-2010, 01:28 AM

Got word back from local vipec rep, and its gonna be about $5-6k installed and tuned.
confirmed that haldex will function, with the ecu controlling the following

fuel/ignition/rev limit
both vvt cams
variable intake
DBW throttle
maybe turf the MAF

not 100% if im going to go ahead with it, but pretty keen at this stage...