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  1. #11
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    Well a few months ago I fitted front and rear eibach sway bars to the mk2. Fantastic handling with much less understeer. Probably not a huge increase in oversteer (did there need to be?) and apart from very bumpry roads where vibrations are passed across the car it's cool.

    You do get a decrease in comfort imo, not that important with std gti suspension however. They cost $500 + shipping although I've heard it's cheaper to buy from a dealer (look in the golf+) instead of eibach direct.

    Mine were 2ndhand and for $50 inc shipping eibach will sell you the fitting kit for the back one. The front is oem. Enjoy

  2. #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Golf Loon
    To fit gti swaybars to a non gti, you would need to drill the lower control arms and have the entire kit.
    The factory sway bar (front) does not require any drilling. The rear requires a couple of holes in the beam.

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    Ok have just been ferreting through the shed and here are pics of the swaybars. They are all homemade, but functional. They all fit the underside of the car at the front.

    This is the most basic. Simply a bar with two brackets which connect to the bolt which holds the bottom control arm on both sides.



    And a close up of the bracket. It drops the level of the bar a bit, so it clears the sump.



    This is another one. Solid as anything. It has a bar the same as the first one, and another welded to the cups which hold the front of the control arm. Front of the car is sold as a rock with this setup.



    I reckon rather than my providing measurements each car should be measured individually, as they may already deviate from standard.
    I reckon anyyone with a welder and bit of steel could make one of these in an hour or so.
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    Having re-read this thread, there seems to be some confusion in my mind as to what you fellas are talking about.
    I am sure it just English thing, 'at least 2 nations divided by the same language'.

    I understand 'sway bar' as an American (possible used by the Australians too) term for anti roll bars. These are fitted across the front of the car attached to the wishbone to help the car corner flatter. Same with the rear, although on a mk1-2-3 the rear axle performs much the same function. On GTIs there is an additional bar mounted alongside the axle to stiffen it further.

    The pictures that Golfloon has posted look like what us Pommies would call strut braces.

    These mount between the inner wishbones pivots to prevent them moving and altering the suspesion geometry during hard cornering.

    Even VW considered this an issue and fitted a 'bottom brace' to the later mk1 cabriolets and the 16V Scirocco from the factory.

    I agree that the bottom brace is very neccessary on all modified/lowered mk1s and to complete the setup I would also fit an upper brace at the front and one between the strut towers at the rear.

    http://www.bigboyztoys.co.uk/index.p...af10b8a3865c7e

    Here's a poor example of all 3 for a mk1.

    Have I been correct in my thinking?
    Gavin

    EDIT much bigger picture
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    Quote Originally Posted by h100vw
    The pictures that Golfloon has posted look like what us Pommies would call strut braces.

    Have I been correct in my thinking?
    Gavin
    Yes

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    check out my lower brace at http://scramjetsite.8m.com then go to photo page scroll to the bottom.

    theres a couple of pics of the bar i made in the workshop and fitted to my car, its about as solid as they come, impossible to flex it so i'm sure the front is nice and stiff. its all mig welded 30mm OD mild steel tube with 50x50x4mm angle ends.

    it clears everything ok with my 4 speed just nessles in behind the sump.

    so do is a sway bar really worth it? that is, the OTHER bar
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