Real world Amarok tuning

[Euro Car Upgrades]

Hey mate,
We do V-Tech Tunes - leader in Europe - VW is a EU car.
They work really well , we have done about 20 for the last 2 months and clients are pretty happy.
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Tunes available:

Stage 1 with emphasis on power
Stage 1 with emphasis on fuel economy

Stage 2 with emphasis on power
Stage 2 with emphasis on fuel economy

Stage 3 with emphasis on power

Why choose ecu chip tuning over plug-in modules??


1.
Because rail pressure modules/pulse width modules can only increase and decrease fueling.
To make more power using a chip, you need to inject more fuel, which means increase fuel use.
Pulse width can also modify injectors delay, but they cannot advance injection correctly.

2.
Rail chips cannot overcome ANY torque limiters in the ECU. Period.
Increase fuel as much as you like, they will meet a "brick wall" which they cannot get around.

3.
ECU tuning actually can reduce your fuel use substantially and is backed up by ACTUAL dyno figures and real world figures.

4.
We edit over 800 cells in the ecu. The maps are 3 dimensional. This is why we can actually make the car feel completely different with an ECU tune. We all have heard the stories of how "chips" don't even make a noticeable difference in performance but will increase fuel consumption. Not all "chips" are the same, but most do the same thing. ECU tuning is completely different. We do not trick the ECU.

Why does ECU tuning tend to make a more driveable vehicle and make more power and save fuel at the same time?

This depends on how you drive too. The engine management is a flowing 4d canvas with lots of variables. We edit the ECU logic for as many situations as we can envision. Overall you should feel a completely fluid transition from power to cruise and back.


What do we change?:

-Drive-by-wire pedal feel
-Injection angles
-Fuel rail pressure (Never more than 2% increase over stock, unlike plug-in chips)
-Torque limiter for 1st and 2nd gear
-Torque limiter for remaining gears
-Torque governor
-Torque request warm
-Torque request cruise
-Torque request non-cruise
-EGR (Exhaust gas re-circ) (We can switch this off for Off-road/track cars)
-DPF management (We can switch this off for Off-road/track cars)
-Boost levels (We usually keep the boost around stock unless requested)
-Gearbox controls (Auto)
-Turbo dynamics
-Warm up fueling (Usually leave stock settings)

Physical changes?

We do our best to keep the engine bay looking stock.

Can we remove the tune? What if I lose my tune due to VW ecm update?

We re-instate lost tunes usually at no cost. Tunes are only lost if VW make an update to engine management. This usually happens only in the first 1-2years of releasing an engine setup. This period has passed and I don't expect further updates to engine management from VW.

How safe are the tunes?

The Amarok uses a bosch 4.9 wideband air fuel sensor for onboard tuning. The Amarok pulls/adds up to 25% fueling to keep in the pre-determined fueling we set. We aim to keep AFR's above 18:1 to stop overheating issues of the piston crowns.

The Amarok also self-monitors EGT's (Exhaust gas temps) if they get high, power/fuel is reduced to keep the engine safe.

What this means is, the engine management should never let the engine get into a dangerous situation as long as all sensors work correctly. This engine has been tested to over 30psi boost by us and we are confident that keeping to our low targets of boost for stage 1 and stage 2 tunes will keep engines safe.

What are common problems with tunes?

Increased clutch wear
Increased engine mount wear
Increased tire wear

Why do some tuners have issues tuning the Amarok?

These fall into 3 categories,
1. Those who treat a Bosch ecu logic with say Japanese style tuning. (Does not work!)
2. Those who don't edit the ecu correctly, due to the variable firmware from vehicle to vehicle. (There's about 60 different versions of the Amarok ECU so far! - Get it wrong and you could cause damage or get no tuning result!)
3. Those who don't edit the torque limiters and just add a heap of boost/fuel but make bugger all power/difference to stock.

We don't have these issues as we actually write some of the files for Bosch OEM ecu's aswell! We have bosch motorsport heritage and experience.

Its one of the hardest ECU's to edit and only a handful of companies can see the entire ECU contents for values.


Do you offer a trial of the tune?

We offer a 14 day money back if you want your ECU returned to stock in that period.

[parso_rex]

So like Superchips then?

[Euro Car Upgrades]

No mate, proper Engine Re-Map without any additional Hardware

So like Superchips then?

[parso_rex]

No mate, proper Engine Re-Map without any additional Hardware

I don't think they use hardware http://www.superchips.co.uk/search?m...1&variant=2724

[Euro Car Upgrades]

Price suggests they do mate
They dont take the ECU out, open it and re-flash the software as its impossible at this price.

I don't think they use hardware http://www.superchips.co.uk/search?m...1&variant=2724

[h100vw]

Price suggests they do mate
They dont take the ECU out, open it and re-flash the software as its impossible at this price.

Read that link again, the price is in sterling. Superchips have been around longer than practically everyone going. They started doing tuning when it was just chips.

Gavin

[Euro Car Upgrades]

They would not be longer on the market than V-Tech which we use their tunes for and they do work for Bosch (zi Germans)
It cost us more for the SW that we pay than odd 400 quid.
Maybe its the case you get what you pay for.
Cannot comment on chips from the UK, not my kettle of fish and never will be.

Read that link again, the price is in sterling. Superchips have been around longer than practically everyone going. They started doing tuning when it was just chips.

Gavin

[DonJuan]

So does v-tech have a website available to see the gains and products available?
I haven't heard of them in the 3 years I've owned and tuned my VW golfs so I'd be interested to see some more information of how they compare to the common tuning companies regularly found on this and other VW forums?

[Euro Car Upgrades]

Hi mate,
They do in Europe but its either in German, Swedish or Polish.
There is a website in English but no so much info.
When we have spare $5k will do a proper website. For the time being we'd rather offer a premium service at a base price. If you email me I will email you back with the dyno read for your car.

So does v-tech have a website available to see the gains and products available?
I haven't heard of them in the 3 years I've owned and tuned my VW golfs so I'd be interested to see some more information of how they compare to the common tuning companies regularly found on this and other VW forums?