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    Good points there but as I said it's not a matter of APR or overseas. There are plenty of local alternatives, like GIAC, Revo, DNA, Custom Code, Viezu etc just to name a few. While most don't sell hardware, there are plenty of workshops that do - e.g. quite a few Milltek distributors in Aus. APR is being singled out because even by Australian standards their prices are high. Quality and reliability is really not the issue, there are plenty who swear they were better taken care of by GIAC or Revo etc. As I said, there will be people who feel something like APR is the safest / most reliable choice and are prepared to pay the premium and that is understandable, I'm just saying that in actual fact the same quality or arguably better is available locally for less, which makes the premium essentially a waste of money for the consumer. I don't see anyone defending VW dealer services / parts pricing around here...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DkN View Post
    Good points there but as I said it's not a matter of APR or overseas. There are plenty of local alternatives, like GIAC, Revo, DNA, Custom Code, Viezu etc just to name a few. While most don't sell hardware, there are plenty of workshops that do - e.g. quite a few Milltek distributors in Aus. APR is being singled out because even by Australian standards their prices are high. Quality and reliability is really not the issue, there are plenty who swear they were better taken care of by GIAC or Revo etc. As I said, there will be people who feel something like APR is the safest / most reliable choice and are prepared to pay the premium and that is understandable, I'm just saying that in actual fact the same quality or arguably better is available locally for less, which makes the premium essentially a waste of money for the consumer. I don't see anyone defending VW dealer services / parts pricing around here...
    Yep, I agree whatever works for you. I went pretty hardcore with mine so I needed access to a good mechanic. The best one here only fits and sells APR, so the decision was easy for me. If he was selling something else, I would have gone with that.. The tuners you mentioned do not have any local representation here.

    The rivalry between tuners and owners of tuned parts is really quite silly (and annoying) IMHO. We're already a small part of the car community so we should stick together, irrespective of what tune or what exhaust we have - we're all dubbers. Just with all things in life, our path to our decisions are different - we don't all live in the same suburb or do the same job, our discovery of our options are different - and therefore so are our decisions.

    And what you say about VW dealers is moot. Some people may LOVE their local VW dealer and are not performance orientated like we are on here. I'd never take mine to my local VW dealer in a dying fit, but I think if they saw mine they'd refuse to work on it anyway!

    That's the beauty of choice I suppose. I still don't get why people have to rip into each other over what mods they've got, it's silly.

    And the reason APR is more expensive in aus is due to a few reasons I suspect. Competition (there is none for APR gear in Australia), overheads and turnover. Most of the other systems out there are sold by a number of direct importers with little overheads and in a competitive market. So yep I agree they are far better value in terms of hardware costs - but the hardware cost is only one part of the project.

    Kind of like the old PC vs MAC argument. PC's are cheaper, have better components, and you can source them yourself from wherever you like rather than go through the Apple 'experience'. But which is a better overall package, integrates better together and is better supported? Depends on your goals, right?

    I've often been branded an APR fanboy (usually by anti APR people), it's simply not true. I wanted the best overall package. It did upset me what I paid for some of my gear, but the overall package is exemplary - and I'm talking about FAR more than just the APR gear. My mechanic did all the other non APR work as well (and he's a VW master), which was extensive. This is why everything worked so well.

    Frankly there was no other option to have mine done as well as it was - but that's obviously different for everybody, and each person needs to weigh up their own options/needs/goals.
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    Yeah mate I have no intention of rip into APR customers (unless they can't stand any criticism on APR and try to rip into me instead), it's just some of APR's tactics that are not to my liking. And for the record, I'm 100% Android over iPhone don't get me started on the difference between "better" and a preset all-in-one package...
    TR 08 Golf GT TDI, Custom Code Phase 1, Milltek Exhaust, Whiteline RSB + ALK, APR Carbonio Intake

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    the simple matter of fact is... do your own research before deciding which tune, which company, which parts, which mechanic you wish to use. by having a direction and an understanding of what you hope to achieve will ensure you make the right decision up front without any complaints during or after the experience.

    this will ensure you know all about service, price, quality, etc before you do anything and therefore you will know what to expect during your modding journey.

    sorry, just my 2 cents...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonJuan View Post
    the simple matter of fact is... do your own research before deciding which tune, which company, which parts, which mechanic you wish to use. by having a direction and an understanding of what you hope to achieve will ensure you make the right decision up front without any complaints during or after the experience.

    this will ensure you know all about service, price, quality, etc before you do anything and therefore you will know what to expect during your modding journey.

    sorry, just my 2 cents...
    Yep...

    Now get that Stage 3 for your pirelli.. You'll be a happy man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kryten2001 View Post
    Yep...

    Now get that Stage 3 for your pirelli.. You'll be a happy man.
    Pmsl... Even I can count... Stage 2 has to come first old boy! lol

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    The top end is crazy but you do lose a bit down low. License losing stuff.

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    I'll add one other perspective/reasoning which Im curious of peoples thoughts .

    Where does peoples thoughts stand on parts suppliers and how they spend that money ?

    Would you be willing to pay extra for goods if you saw the company sponsoring events and having an active participation in motorsport ?
    or
    Do you only care about the purchase price of goods ?
    Bug_racer supports the rebellion of the euro revolution

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    People care about price/service first and foremost.

    PERFORMANCE, STYLING AND OEM PRODUCTS FOR YOUR VW

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    And Tim offers both!

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