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    HEAT and APR sage 1

    Just sent the following email to APR, was hoping someone on the forum may have a similar experience

    Cheers

    Nick


    Hey

    I was interested in the stage 1 ecru upgrade for my golf R. I just had a question about heat and long distance driving with it.

    I live in Cairns, generally, in around town driving my oil temp is floating around 94 degrees and after some “spirited driving” it can go as high as 104 degrees. Mostly on the highway it floats between 93-97. I’m travelling about 2000km a week and love the idea of the upgrade but I am concerned as VW detuned the motor because of hot weather.

    Would the ecru upgrade be safe for me to get? Or should I wait and save some money for the up rated air intake and intercooler? Is it true if I go for a bigger intercooler without replacing the turbo that I may experience more lag???? And would I require a custom tune due to these mods

    Thanks for your help
    2007 Golf GT Sport TDi sold!
    2011 Golf R 3 door Candy White with all the non carbon fibre fruit !
    2011 Tiguan 147TSI

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    they say vw detuned it due to heat but i personally think it has more to do with it being less powerful than an s3 so it can compete in such a small market, afterall they didn't detune the s3 and it has the same motor

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    Nick,

    I'm sure James will answer your email tomorrow directly!

    Hot weather testing has been carried out, Australia, Middle East, South Africa -

    The Golf R (AUS Spec) does run a smaller intercooler, but its going to be a heat soak issue, not an engine protection issue.

    Now we have seen 130 degrees C as a "normal" oil temperature in a standard car with spirited driving, so don't be concerned, even at 130. We did some hot weather testing at QLD Raceway in November on our stage 3 Golf R, track temp was around 50 C and no issues with any temps what so ever.

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    Awesome, James just responded with similar info, good news that the heat is not an issue
    2007 Golf GT Sport TDi sold!
    2011 Golf R 3 door Candy White with all the non carbon fibre fruit !
    2011 Tiguan 147TSI

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeDiES View Post
    they say vw detuned it due to heat but i personally think it has more to do with it being less powerful than an s3 so it can compete in such a small market, afterall they didn't detune the s3 and it has the same motor
    I think the R actually the same power as the S3, it's less power though than the TT-S - which has the same motor as the S3/Golf R.
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    Quote Originally Posted by REXman View Post
    I think the R actually the same power as the S3, it's less power though than the TT-S - which has the same motor as the S3/Golf R.
    just looked and thats true, more the reason they can't let a car that costs less have more power

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